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      Why would it need to stay that way though? Once a phone has similar processing power there’s no reason you couldn’t hook it up to any screen and Bluetooth a controller.

      We’re a few decades from that if I had to guess (based on very little, I’m not an expert at all), but seems totally plausible to me.

      I imagine chess players laughed in a similar way when pong came out.

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      The current mobile form will improve, the ubiquitous nature of it will dominate.

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        Form into what? High powered CPUs with giant monitors on a desk with great resolution and a myriad of tried and tested input controls?

        We got that already, and it’s not a phone.

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          High powered computers, and desktop setups, are today’s current gold standard. But maybe not the futures.

          We’re at the point where a phone could power a desktop computer, with a suitable dock.

          Phone input methods certainly are adaptable, you could get switch style connectors for a phone, or some human-based motion tracking.

          Projectors, foldable phones, display glasses, are ways to make the screen bigger for gaming.

          Phones are in everybody’s pockets, they’re getting fast enough, most of them are fast enough, to run games from 5 to 10 years ago no problem. I routinely watch people play games on their phones for over an hour on the train. The gaming’s here already

          I don’t think mobile gaming will ever be the pinnacle of current gaming, but it will be the ubiquitous platform that is targeted in the future.

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            We’re at the point where a phone could power a desktop computer, with a suitable dock.

            No we aren’t, the hardware is light-years behind. Maybe that will happen eventually but that’s certainly a different thing than today’s mobile phones. Kind of weird to insist it’s just the same thing.

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              https://www.samsung.com/us/apps/dex/

              https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LrLDKYFyLMM

              https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36963200

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_M1

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A17

              The hardware is on par. Especially when you look at the apple chips. The m1 is a direct successor to the iPhone chips. Yeah they make a couple different power trade-offs. But the same chip in the MacBooks is being used in the iPads.

              I’m not saying it’s a daily driver for people today. But it’s so close

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                Dude there is not a reference in the world that will convince me a current phone can remotely touch my desktop. The apple m1 barely rivals it at all but that’s not what we are talking about. Laptop does not equal phone

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                  You claimed it was lightyears behind to be fair, nobody said it’d be an equal to today’s gaming rigs but the gap has certainly closed a bit.

                  Current phones are more powerful than a switch already, which is releasing AAA games that people are buying so some people are perfectly happy playing a game with moderate gfx and performance. I can absolutely see AAA games being designed for phones in the future and docking in a similar way.

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                    It being possible to use for a specific purpose is a far cry from being able to run any software you want with much better performance. That’s what being on par with means here.

                    Even my m1 work laptop which is impressively fast for a laptop, is noticeably worse off than my desktop. No one is denying the progress, but no “on par” is not at all accurate

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                Saying you could plug in a phone in place of a desktop is like saying you don’t need a car because you can just walk. Technically, they fill the sale role, but its a night and day difference in capability and just due to laws of physics, that isn’t going to change.

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        Connection stability, performance, and controller support all have a had a lot of time to get better, why would we expect it to happen now but not before? Mobile gaming is popular with kids but it also sucks. I think kids are just playing what they have, when they have a choice they won’t necessarily stick with mobile.

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        How? I’ve emulated games on phones before and it’s ok at best for the types of games they can handle. You’re never going to get something like fallout or borderlands or Baldurs Gate running well on phones compared to consoles and PCs without a dock and external controller as well as enough processing power to be beyond overkill as a mobile device. Fuck metroidvanias suck on mobile and games like stardew are playable but much worse.