So I honestly don’t really disagree with you. I wonder who downvoted me, the pro baby teeth crowd?
Anyways, I tend to think of myself as libertarian. Though more of the defense of individual freedoms. Than this anything for a buck that the koch brothers promote. I honestly feel like that crowd has taken some of the core libertarian values and perverted them and I blame Ayn Rand. I have always felt that rules should be based on a standard of prevention harm to self or others and honestly I am willing to get a little loose on the harm to self. So for example I don’t think wearing seatbelts should be required under law. I do however think that car companies should be required to install them as standard. Not wearing one would be a harm to self thing were not installing them would be a harm to others. Oh and I think people should wear them, just as an personal choice were you understand the benefit.
The one thing that I do kinda disagree with you on is the regulation based on morals. Simply put who’s morals? All those people try to ban abortion under any circumstances. Are 100% doing it because they think it is morally right and they feel they are morally justice in enforcing their morals on others against their will. Even when it causes harm.
I just find morally based regulation trends to the removal of freedoms and the marginalization of those that do not fit into standard society. Don’t get me wrong, I am fully aware that a fully libertarian state is doomed to fail. It is a full on pipe dream, but so is a righteous one.
Oh and that poor deserved to be poor thing. That is based on the “Protestant work ethic” which started out as a morality judgement where “good” people were rewarded with success and “bad” people had to suffer. That has been so engrained in society that people don’t even know it is there anymore. It is something that I find fascinating.
I think we are getting mostly to the same point we have just suffered under different extremes.
Sorry, I saw this earlier but got busy so I didn’t reply. But yeah, I just wanted to say that even though we probably disagree on some things, I appreciate how civil this conversation has been. Cheers mate!
So I honestly don’t really disagree with you. I wonder who downvoted me, the pro baby teeth crowd?
Anyways, I tend to think of myself as libertarian. Though more of the defense of individual freedoms. Than this anything for a buck that the koch brothers promote. I honestly feel like that crowd has taken some of the core libertarian values and perverted them and I blame Ayn Rand. I have always felt that rules should be based on a standard of prevention harm to self or others and honestly I am willing to get a little loose on the harm to self. So for example I don’t think wearing seatbelts should be required under law. I do however think that car companies should be required to install them as standard. Not wearing one would be a harm to self thing were not installing them would be a harm to others. Oh and I think people should wear them, just as an personal choice were you understand the benefit.
The one thing that I do kinda disagree with you on is the regulation based on morals. Simply put who’s morals? All those people try to ban abortion under any circumstances. Are 100% doing it because they think it is morally right and they feel they are morally justice in enforcing their morals on others against their will. Even when it causes harm.
I just find morally based regulation trends to the removal of freedoms and the marginalization of those that do not fit into standard society. Don’t get me wrong, I am fully aware that a fully libertarian state is doomed to fail. It is a full on pipe dream, but so is a righteous one.
Oh and that poor deserved to be poor thing. That is based on the “Protestant work ethic” which started out as a morality judgement where “good” people were rewarded with success and “bad” people had to suffer. That has been so engrained in society that people don’t even know it is there anymore. It is something that I find fascinating.
I think we are getting mostly to the same point we have just suffered under different extremes.
Sorry, I saw this earlier but got busy so I didn’t reply. But yeah, I just wanted to say that even though we probably disagree on some things, I appreciate how civil this conversation has been. Cheers mate!