NASA and Lockheed Martin formally debuted the agency’s X-59 quiet supersonic aircraft Friday. Using this one-of-a-kind experimental airplane, NASA aims to

  • rickdg@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    arrow-down
    13
    ·
    10 months ago

    It’s like a blind Pinocchio flying at the speed of sound controlled by a touch screen. 2024, ladies and gents.

      • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        10 months ago

        It was a joke.

        But no, I don’t believe it’s controlled with a touch screen. Though it is “daring” shall we say… to make a plane with no cockpit windows.

        • Kata1yst@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          10 months ago

          In commercial airliners, nearly the entire flight is now closely monitored and controlled by redundant computer systems. And the pilots rarely use the front window, they mostly fly by instrument.

          Cameras as the cockpit windows aren’t really that crazy at this point. Really glass cockpits are a formality.

          • Takumidesh@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            10
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            10 months ago

            Glass cockpit is a specific term for flight decks that have replaced analog gauges with digital gauges and screens.

            Pilots use the windows all of the time. They use it to look for traffic and for vfr approaches.

        • Meowoem@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          10 months ago

          It’s really not, flying without looking out the window is very common especially for NASA and the USAF.

          • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            edit-2
            10 months ago

            It’s really not, flying without looking out the window is very common especially for NASA and the USAF.

            Absolutely, in fact it’s not just nasa or military, almost everyone does that. You need to prove that you can fly without looking out the window to get your “instrument rating” and be legally allowed to fly at night. Every instrument flight rated pilot can do it (a majority of pilots). However, airports are lit up with lights, so even at night or in fog, you can see the runway as you’re landing. If you have no windows, you can’t do that, you’ll need someone to guide you down.

            That’s not my concern, the issue is a lack of redundancy. If the computers crash or if the vehicle loses power your suddenly have no windows. From a design perspective, it’s a risky choice. Not insurmountable, but it’s a potential problem point. It’s a choice that adds an additional critical single point of failure.

            • reddithalation@sopuli.xyz
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              10 months ago

              lack of redundancy is a concern, but the same was said for fly by wire cutting the physical link between stick and controls. fly by wire is ubiquitous now, can be made very very safe, and is a net gain for aviation in general.

              not having a window is obviously a bigger challenge, but its still a solvable problem.

              • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                10 months ago

                Yeah, I totally agree. I don’t think this is an insurmountable challenge or anything, just a bold decision.

            • Meowoem@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              10 months ago

              Yeah but looking out the window as your plane crashes isn’t going to change the fiery death that a system shutdown on a modern airliner will inevitably bring.

              I get what you’re saying but a window is a structural trade off too, they’ve obviously done the testing and determined it’s a sensible design choice

              • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                10 months ago

                Yeah but looking out the window as your plane crashes isn’t going to change the fiery death that a system shutdown on a modern airliner will inevitably bring.

                Simply not true.

                There are redundant systems for everything on aircraft. You can certainly control the plane without the computers working, and without any instruments working. You can generally control the plane even without power because of redundant hydraulic systems.

                Thinking computers are necessary to do anything is wrong when it comes to aircraft.

                And obviously the choice to eliminate the windows is entirely a structural design, that’s where you see the benefits, which I’m sure are quite real.