This looks toxic, by the way.

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    10 months ago

    Because it’s harder to pick and choose trial evidence that exonerates the cops of their malfeasance unless you have something evidencing that they told them to stop before they fired their gun, regardless of whether they actually said it before firing their gun.

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        show me a solution without cops

        when my car got stolen and the cops just gave me a report number and then me and my insurance did literally everything else

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          When I was assaulted by a drunken idiot in broad daylight in full view of the cops, and they did nothing to stop him assaulting me or running off

          When I was randomly pulled over and my car meticulously inspected for defects/illegal modifications and when they couldn’t find anything they gave me a fine for the car being ‘too low’. And when I take it up with the magistrate it magically gets tossed out due to lack of evidence

          Fuck cops.

          • I was once handed five tickets for driving without insurance, while the cops held my valid insurance in their hands. I had to take time off of work to go to traffic court and get them thrown out. They almost didn’t because of systematic bureaucratic hell but that’s a different story.

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        I don’t think in general the ACAB crowd means “no police”. It means better training, independent oversight, and a division of roles (e.g. social work, welfare check).

        Basically actually having accountability would go a long way towards weeding out the root problem

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          That’s because there is no such thing as a unified “ACAB crowd.” It’s turned into a catch-all used by people from full on abolitionists to liberals upset over specific events. In reality, ACAB is an abolitionist phrase. If all cops are bastards, the entire concept of policing as we know it is flawed and needs to be done away with.

          That’s the problem with catchy phrases spreading over the internet: they lose all meaning.

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        My apartment was broken into and stuff stolen. The cops came, took notes, took one of my vases for evidence (which they lost), then left.

        So besides stealing even more of my shit, and providing paperwork for my insurance company, what exactly did they do?

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          Well if they didn’t shoot your dog, it doesn’t even sound like these were cops at all. Are you sure it wasn’t the burglars who came back for the vase they couldn’t take the first time around?

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        10 months ago

        Germany, Switzerland… Finland…
        You know… Free countries