• Masimo, the company that sued Apple over patent infringement, has unveiled its own blood oxygen monitoring smartwatch called the Masimo Freedom.
  • The Masimo Freedom is a health-focused device that can track blood oxygen levels, hydration index, respiration rate, pulse rate variability, pulse rate, steps, and detect falls.
  • The smartwatch is currently in prototype stage and will be available for sale later this year at a price of $999.

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    All of them. Every cheaper alternative is just a crappier product that cheaper because it’s simply not as good.

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          There’s been a Garmin app store for twice as long as Apple has been making watches.

          https://apps.garmin.com/en-US/

          It’s not at all a different product. It’s a direct competitor who makes a superior product.

          Again – I’ve had a smart watch that does all the shit apple watch does, for half a decade before apple even thought about it. And mine can go a month without charging.

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            It’s a direct competitor who makes a superior product.

            Define superior. Only Apple makes Smartwatch SoCs with any kind of decent performance, other manufacturers like Qualcomm don’t put a lot of effort into the market segment and just put an old CPU core in a low power package and call it a day. It’s simply not profitable enough for them.

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              I don’t give a shit about any of that. It’s what the watch DOES, and Garmin does WAY more, for WAY longer.

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                Garmin does not do way more. Most of their “apps” are just replacement watch faces. Garmin doesn’t even try to compete on features, their selling points are battery life, price, and integration with other Garmin fitness accessories. Apple/Google/Samsung watches are so capable they’re basically tiny phones.

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                    11 months ago

                    Pictured: a couple of my “apple toys”

                    Garmin seems to be doing fairly well targeting people who want a simpler smartwatch with a focus on fitness and battery life. I don’t don’t know who you think you’re benefitting by lying about their capabilities, but anyone who buys one on your recommendation expecting a feature rich device is going to be sorely disappointed.

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          He’s full of shit, and the people upvoting him don’t know anything about Garmin watches. Garmin doesn’t compete with apple. They don’t want to compete with apple. Garmin doesn’t take the kitchen sink approach that apple/Google/Samsung do. They focus on fitness and battery life, they’re competing with Fitbit. This liar is pulling the old “I like it, therefore it’s the best at everything” trope. He’s a child. Ignore him.

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      11 months ago

      Like the thousand dollar basic monitor stand?

      Or comparing similarly specced macs vs PCs (I bet that’s why they moved away from x86 again, because it was too obvious how overpriced they were when the specs could be compared 1:1).

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        The thousand dollar monitor stand is not a consumer product and simply sold separately because not a lot of people are going to need it. The monitor it’s meant for is actually a lot cheaper than comparable monitors.

        Or comparing similarly specced macs vs PCs

        In the x86 era similarly specced PCs had similar prices or were even more expensive. The thing about Mac’s is that while you can get a PC that has some better specs for less, you couldn’t get anything that matched all the specs. It may have had a faster CPU, but would come in a crappy plastic case, weigh a ton and run out of battery in 30 seconds. Or it ran forever on a single charge but had a CPU that was slow as molasses.

        (I bet that’s why they moved away from x86 again, because it was too obvious how overpriced they were when the specs could be compared 1:1).

        No, it’s because x86 is an overcomplicated mess with terrible performance/watt. x86 CPUs run hot, drain your battery and still don’t perform great. Apple’s M series SoC’s are amazing. A clean, modern ISA, high IPC, low power usage, low heat. It doesn’t matter if my MacBook Pro (M1 Max )runs on battery or wall power, it’s always blazing fast. It has insane battery life, does not get hot and is completely silent.

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          I was referring to the desktop space. Apple is a lot more competitive in the laptop space (unless you’re a gamer), but their desktop specs always made me laugh at the price they ask for it. Granted, I haven’t looked recently, but any time I’ve looked in the past, their price seems about 1k too high for what they are offering.

          But yeah, x86 laptops are generally a shitshow. I had a decent personal one, though that was used more like a very portable desktop than a true laptop. That one just stopped charging one day (though its timing was impeccable because I was already in the process of moving my files to a new desktop I had just built, just had to pull the drives out to get the rest of it). And a cheap one I threw Linux on for school that did the job. But my first work laptop at my current job was garbage and the current one is relatively better, but also has a bunch of issues, enough that I don’t think very highly of HP even ignoring their printer bs.

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            I was referring to the desktop space.

            Is that still even a thing? Between hybrid working and flex desking, who still uses desktop PC’s?

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              Gamers and custom builders. We also got some desktops at work to give our team some dedicated compute resources when our central system wasn’t able to keep up with the company’s needs.

              The very top of personal computing is still desktops. And even in the high end where laptops can compete, there’s a premium you pay for the smaller package. Custom laptops are becoming more common but the size still limits choices you can make.

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                Gamers and custom builders.

                Tiny niche market.

                We also got some desktops at work to give our team some dedicated compute resources when our central system wasn’t able to keep up with the company’s needs.

                We just run all that stuff in the cloud, much easier to scale up and down.

                And even in the high end where laptops can compete, there’s a premium you pay for the smaller package.

                Yeah, but does it matter? You can get a decked out MacBook Pro for less than €5k, that’s peanuts in the grand scheme of things. You can’t bring a desktop computer into a meeting, or to a customer, or home for a work from home day.

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                  For the same price as a decked out MacBook m3, you can get a laptop with a i9-13980hx. That beats the m3 max in single core cinebench by 12% and in multi core cinebench by 29%.

                  Also, the laptops at that price point have a dedicated gpu.

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                    For the same price as a decked out MacBook m3, you can get a laptop with a i9-13980hx. That beats the m3 max in single core cinebench by 12% and in multi core cinebench by 29%.

                    And that laptop has a similar size, weight build quality, battery life, display resolution/peak brightness,etc ? Or is it a plastic fantastic ‘luggable’ behemoth that runs out in less than 2 hours and throttles almost immediately under load? Link to that mythical laptop please.

                    Also, the laptops at that price point have a dedicated gpu.

                    You say that like it’s a good thing. Discrete GPUs suck, especially for GPGPU tasks. Not having unified memory is killing for performance in anything but games. Copying data to/from VRAM is slow and discrete GPUs have very limited VRAM. Even a 4090 only has 24GB. Meanwhile you can spec out an M2 MacBook with 96GB RAM and have almost all of that available to the GPU.