• dan@upvote.au
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    11 months ago

    Obama improved a lot through Obamacare, but it’s really hard to get a good system in the USA as a lot of people are strongly against free and universal health care, even though it’d likely decrease the amount they have to pay for their own health care too. I really don’t understand it.

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      11 months ago

      Oh, it’s very easy to understand. They’re worried their tax dollars might help someone who “doesn’t deserve it”, so they’d rather not help anyone.

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      11 months ago

      I broadly agree with that, it’s better from the former system in the way that walking on glass is better than being on fire.

      As with a large portion of our fucked up politics, the answer for why people are like this here IMO goes back to conservative talk radio post-Fairness Doctrine. For people who haven’t lived in the rural US, especially before satellite radio, I can’t emphasize enough how much the massive amounts of extreme conservative talk radio shows impact the stuff you hear every day. When the majority of Americans never travel abroad to see otherwise it’s easy to just accept the conservative propaganda that you half listen to for hours a day, every day, for decades.

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        11 months ago

        it’s better from the former system in the way that walking on glass is better than being on fire

        Unless you were unemployed or extremely poor, in which case there’s no difference

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          11 months ago

          How much that’s true is going to depend greatly on whether or not you live in a state that expanded Medicare. For my home red state, it’s basically the same as it was pre-ACA if you’re poor. Go pound sand, more or less. But in the blue state I live in now the Medicare expansion helps a lot of people. Definitely much less dire than pre-ACA, but still a lot wrong with it.

          But since the electoral college is controlled by the most unhinged and out of touch voters in the least educated states in the nation, sucks for us I guess.