While it is easy to use phrases like “use critical thinking”, this is not easy for elders or cousins in families to be told, as this is not lucid to understand in a snap. It is essential for criticism to be easily communicable to ordinary people that watch Google Feed or MSN News daily, and I feel that such criticism is not even easy to access or read, considering ordinary people have been cornered from MSM, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and rest of Big Tech and Western media apparatus.

If you love your BBC and CNN feeds, avoid this post, this is not for you.

  • plumbercraic@lemmy.sdf.org
    61·
    1 year ago

    Yeah that’s kinda weird. The BBC is not out their intentionally doing bad journalism at an institutional level, but I’m sure it happens. It’d be good to learn about these cases and their causes.

      • Bernie Ecclestoned@sh.itjust.works
        51·
        1 year ago

        The difference is that the BBC is openly using a US funded Australian cyber expert as a source.

        The story is about Chinese state funded influencers not operating openly.

        Can you not see the difference?

        What’s happened to Hong Kong press freedoms since China took it back?

        • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.mlOP
          35·
          1 year ago

          USA calls Australia its Deputy Sheriff in Asian region, and has a military base where Australians are prohibited from entering. Australia is a vassal state of USA. I wonder if there must be a conflict of interest, especially with Australia’s balls tightly clutches with ASPI funded by US weapon manufacturers.

          Can you not see the problem?

          Do I even have to elaborate on Council of Foreign Relations, Bilderberg and Murdoch media, USAGM outlets, NED funded news and media outlets, NGOs, “independent” presstitutes? Do I have to elaborate on Julian Assange?

          Hong Kong is still higher on Freedom Index than USA. Freedom and democracy are in no way tied to Anglo neoliberal dictatorship democracy model.

          • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works
            31·
            1 year ago

            Come on, mate. Hong Kong’s freedom index score is 42, USA is 83, Australia is 95 (source). At least try and avoid making things up if you want to seem like you’re having a good faith discussion.

            Does that mean USA and Australia don’t have problems? Of course they have problems, big ones even, you mentioned some genuine problems here in your comment. That’s not the issue at hand though. Nobody is claiming these countries are problem free. It’s you who is claiming certain news outlets are untrustworthy propaganda pieces. You made a claim, got a reasonable response and now it seems you are gish galloping.

            It’s starting to feel like you have an agenda though to be honest. I personally find your assertion that people who love BBC/CNN are incapable of criticising them quite unhealthy. We can and should be critical of things especially things we are fans of.

            • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.mlOP
              36·
              1 year ago

              > you are gish galloping.

              I can see why its futile to talk to westerners. I will talk to someone and then someone like you will come and shit all over like a crow and fly away. Brandolini’s Law takes effect and people like us are forced to spend 10x the effort to correct misinformation.

              Hong Kong used to be at #3 while USA was at #17. How come the very day Hong Kong gets freed of UK colonialism after more than 90 years, and implements National Security Law to protect itself, its “freedom” drops down? Is being a vassal state or colony of UK/USA the marker of freedom in these indexes? If so, the index seems to be a marker of how much of a western bootlicker a country really is, making “freedom” just a brand name with no worth.

              It is a well established fact that Hong Kong “protest” was a CIA manufactured riot. Even Ted Cruz went to cheer rioters. What if a major Chinese politician went to USA to cheer Jan 6 insurrection? All of you would screech blackboards over it.

              • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works
                22·
                1 year ago

                Hong Kong used to be at #3 while USA was at #17. How come the very day Hong Kong gets freed of UK colonialism after more than 90 years, and implements National Security Law to protect itself, its “freedom” drops down?

                I think this would be useful for you to reflect on.

                Also Wikipedia has a great article on Gish galloping if you’re in a country where you can access that.

                • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.mlOP
                  27·
                  1 year ago

                  I doubt you can be saved. West needs to fall and doom beyond recovery and be unable to exploit rest of non-Anglo world, so that morons like you are forced to act in line.

                  I think it is better for me to not engage with a dishonest manipulative white saviour. And I can read anything I want from India, and could use VPNs in China, Russia, and all the places western circus clowns call bad.

                  • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works
                    22·
                    1 year ago

                    Fair enough, I agree a lot of the western countries do messed up shit and should definitely be held to account. I just don’t have such a rosy eyed view of the dictatorships of the world either (glad you were able to circumvent the censorship laws while you were there btw although not sure why you would want to do that? Do you disagree with the states views?). I’d also suggest trying to stay away from the saviour retoric though, it’s never healthy no matter who is using it and in this case it just comes across as a bit of a bad joke if I’m honest, particularly as I don’t even live in a western country.

                    Anyway, India is a really beautiful place, wish you and your folks all the best.