• Steeve@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Yes, WhatsApp is fully E2EE, there is no back door, Meta can’t see or be forced to hand over your messages. I’ve never seen those headlines personally, but they probably got just got access to their phones.

    I don’t know about GitHub, is there any reason to believe it isn’t encrypted?

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      1 year ago

      Whatsapp had been ever back doored. In germany there are so many news “Whatsapp chats show terrorist was a bad guy”, “Facebook gave police chats of a suspect”…

      If you really think even if it is really E2EE, does a data greedy company not have that encryption key? Are you really that Mainstream Apple fan?

      Is there any reason to belive it IS encrypted?

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        Lol wait, so you’re making the claim that an app that’s widely known to be encrypted isn’t encrypted because you made assumptions based on news headlines and you want me to prove it is encrypted? Well that hardly seems fair…

        But sure, I’ll do it anyways.

        https://www.justsecurity.org/79549/we-now-know-what-information-the-fbi-can-obtain-from-encrypted-messaging-apps/

        FBI themselves admitted they can’t get messaging data from WhatsApp. At best they can get iCloud or Drive backups, but even those use full encryption now.

        https://faq.whatsapp.com/444002211197967

        In fact, WhatsApp straight up tells local law enforcement that no, you can’t request messaging data.

        But sure, yeah, let’s go with your German headlines that I’m pretty sure you’ve misinterpreted.

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          1 year ago

          Whatsapp is NOT widely known to be encrypted of a privacy killing company. I really doubt that still. I have heard of Signal that they give no f*cks about law enforcements. But never Whatsapp. And we cant trust if they are just backdooring it for them and only in the dark giving them to the fbi. Do you really think that meta “encrypts” anything REALLY.

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            1 year ago

            Whatsapp is NOT widely known to be encrypted

            I work in this industry, yes, it is. Just because you don’t know something doesn’t make it not true.

            I have heard of Signal that they give no f*cks about law enforcements.

            No actually, they still have to respond to requests for metadata. They actually do very much give a fuck about the laws of the countries they operate in.

            And we cant trust if they are just backdooring it for them and only in the dark giving them to the fbi.

            They aren’t, I literally just sent you proof of that.

            Do you really think that meta “encrypts” anything REALLY.

            Yes, because they do.

            Man you’re off your fucking rocker dude.

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              1 year ago

              Wow just another troll who doesnt understand when to stop. Who is a corporate fanboy who trust in big corporation not to f… around and sell any data they have. As Meta or rather Facebook is very trustworthy not to sell your data ;). And again from someone from lemmy.ca

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                1 year ago

                Riight, I’m the troll, because I’m responding with links and sources proving your bullshit wrong. Ok bud.