• UnknownQuantity@lemmy.worldEnglish
    349·
    1 year ago

    I don’t get all the hate Brave gets. I understand that techies have some issues, but for me as a user I have nothing bad to say. Ads are blocked everywhere, including YouTube. There’s an option to use tor…

    If you don’t like the crypto options don’t use them. I always thought crypto was bunk, but I wish I bought a bunch of bitcoin when I first heard of it.

    • kava@lemmy.worldEnglish
      224·
      1 year ago

      I don’t like it because it’s a chrome derivative. Sure, they use Chromium and can edit some things. But at the end of the day, they use the Chrome javascript engine and render the HTML/CSS however Google wants to. Therefore Google more or less defines how that browser represents the web. If Google wants to implement or not implement some web standard, Brave has to follow along whether they like it or not.

      I want less power in Google’a hands, not more.

      • nitefox@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        1 year ago

        The chrome javascript engine? V8 you mean? That’s used in Node, it basically powers most, if not all, of the modern web lol

        • kava@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          Good point, I had forgotten node uses v8. It’s powering servers that run node, sure. Not every website uses node. Lemmy I think is rust backend and kbin uses PHP.

          But I mean browser specific rendering. They all follow ECMAScript standard but there are things outside of it. In the past __proto__, a way to get an object’s prototype, only worked in Spidermonkey. Or how the ECMAScript doesn’t specific what order the elements in a for…in loop shows up. Today these are little minor things

          They aren’t particularly important right now (besides hunting weird bugs) because Google follows the standards more or less. But give Google 100% control and you will start seeing dark patterns slip into the javascript itself

          • nitefox@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            The FE can, and probably, still uses node

            Anyway I agree with the sentiment, I use Firefox myself (actually at work I test just against Firefox lol)

          • nitefox@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            Hence the modern. Most modern websites nowadays don’t use php anymore, at least for their FE

            • iopq@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              Laravel is modern enough. If you’re talking bleeding edge web dev, that’s actually on elixir with Phoenix

              Not sure how you count how “modern” something is considering PHP still has new versions and cut lots of releases

    • mrmanager@lemmy.todayOPEnglish
      172·
      1 year ago

      I think it’s largely because of Brendan Eich not supporting gay marriage. The browser itself seems fine to me also.

    • nomadjoanne@lemmy.worldEnglish
      121·
      1 year ago

      I prefer Firefox and Librewolf because they are less dependent on Google. But I never disliked Brave. I have it as a second browser. I think the issue people have with them is that they are also fundamentally an ad company.

      Look, nothing lasts forever. For now, I think brave is a decent alternative to Chrome if people don’t want to leave Chromium.

    • opt9@feddit.chEnglish
      22·
      1 year ago

      Props to Brendan! Firefox and Brave are have put their foot down. Now they need our support. I’m hoping that nobody here is using Chrome (or anything else Google for that matter). We the users are what gave Google their power. We wanted free shit and look where that landed us. Time to turn things around.