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Cake day: December 11th, 2024

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  • Never said or implied that those in power wouldn’t use violence to achieve their goals.

    My point was the group in power will always oppose the use of force by those they oppress while using violence to oppress them.

    As long as one side uses violence (physical, economic, political, etc.) All other sides have to be ready, willing, and able to respond in kind. No one is special. We are all equal.

    The trick those with a monopoly on violence use is disguising their violent acts and then getting those they abuse to shame others into submission.

    If there was a socialist anarchist revolution I think “Fred” as you call him would keep his guard up and fight like he did up to the point the establishment killed him. I think he understood that just because the people next to you are headed in the same direction doesn’t mean you have the same destination.






  • I literally asked how to make people not act that way and said it is what would save the world.

    No one that responded had an answer to how to implement the “solution” of getting people to have “the right thought process.” Conspiratorial thinking isn’t new. Simply saying people should be properly educated isn’t proposing an actual solution, it’s stating the obvious.

    My point was that, until there is an actionable solution to achieve that result (which we are still struggling with as a species) I don’t have an issue with fighting fire with fire.

    It’s fine to propose abstract ideas. The reason we are where we are as a species is that no one is able to put them into practice.

    Edit to add example:

    In the example the mom is an anti vaxer. The Dr. tricks her into vaxing kid. Kid grows up and can’t reconcile mom’s crazy ideas with her contrary actions. Kids starts questioning mom’s sanity. Kid starts searching for answers. Kid joins this community on lemmy. Kid sees this conversation. Kid says that’s what happened to me. Kid abandons conspiracies.

    Or we as a species could simply tell mentally ill people they are mentally ill and expect the mentally ill brain to make a non mentally ill decision.









  • That’s a non answer. I never said conspiratorial thinking was helping the world. (However, in the example given it appears that it may have.)

    What I asked was how do we implement your solution. It’s all well and good to point out problems. But if that problem is unavoidable it becomes the cost of doing business. I take your non answer to mean you don’t have one. That’s fine. I don’t either. In the example given a good result was achieved via a less than ideal way.

    While we wait for the way to implement your solution I am willing to accept getting innocent children vaccinated by any means possible.