Hahaha I’m not Spanish, I’m not a communist, damn, I should reevaluate my life

Jajajaja me vas a decir a mí de dónde soy. It’s amazingly racist that you can’t conceive a western communist being pro-China.

Glad I disarmed you by bringing actual meaningful material improvements to the living conditions of people instead of arguing about technicalities, though.

My project is whichever feeds the children. China saved 800 million from poverty in half a century.

Oh so you’re a western leftist defeatist without a political project, and you will not support anyone fighting against global imperialism because they’re not “pure enough”. Classic western “leftist”. Your apathy and lack of solidarity empower the ones currently in power, i.e. western imperialism.

It was posted because it was written

All propaganda is written at some point. It being written doesnt make it less atrocity propaganda.

You seem very worried about “fake communists”, what’s an example of real world socialism to you?

This post wasn’t posted by “fake commies”, it was posted precisely by libs. It’s atrocity propaganda of working conditions in China to make people dislike the country, and I posted my comment because it’s patent that you don’t care about the living conditions of the working class as much as you care about doing dunks on China because you dislike its form of socialism

Oh, when did you post these prior?

When I see on Lemmy a post about immigrants in Spain (my homeland) dying in summer due to heatstroke being overworked at 39°C, I’ll believe you. Until then, shut up, propagandist

So, are you claiming that there weren’t protests going on and those weren’t answered with massive repression? Were’s the ,xaggeration?

Those protests were going on, and massive repression has occurred. Atrocity propaganda can be (and is in fact most effective when it is) real. I didn’t claim you lied, I didn’t claim the article was false. You misunderstand that the word “propaganda” necessarily means that it’s false, it doesn’t necessarily imply falseness. Atrocity propaganda simply means you’re focusing part of the discourse on crimes of the opposing side, and you’re actively engaging this. You literally made it a point to write a comment pointing out to the repression in a post about Iran that wasn’t discussing this: you CHOSE to bring it up and deviate the conversation of the post towards crimes of the Iranian government. This is a textbook example of atrocity propaganda.

Again: I don’t doubt that you’re doing this coming from a good place and with the good intention of supporting progressive comrades in Iran. I’m just reminding you that doing this during an ongoing military buildup against Iran in the context of protests generated by western sanctions killing Iranians through poverty IS atrocity propaganda.

Your original banned comment includes the words: “I’d like to point out that there is indeed quite massive repression going on against protestors in Iran”. You’re unwilling to accept that this IS, by definition, atrocity propaganda, and it means you’re carrying water for the US, however good your intentions are. I tried to discuss this politely with you but you started swearing at me. That’s my reason, you got defensive and started insulting me when I started showing the flaws of your political stance.

So, what exactly makes you think that I’m pro Israeli genocide or pro war with Russia

The fact that you’re unwilling to maintain a normal conversation on why you’re engaging in US-aligned atrocity propaganda.

I dropped the politeness when you started insulting me :) enjoy your compulsory recruitment! Go kill some Ruzzianz, buddy!

Am I not allowed to discuss a comment I saw browsing a community?

Yes, I’m telling you that you’re spreading imperialist propaganda, but after browsing through your profile and seeing that you’re a German “Anarchist”, I’ve decided to give up. Good luck defending Israel’s right to exist or something, enjoy the upcoming compulsory military conscription in your country! Rosa Luxembourg and Liebknecht would be proud /s

Your country will not have a meaningful anticapitalist movement until you start treating the Soviet Union as the heroes who saved your asses from Nazism.

Well, I’m sorry you can’t be bothered to have a conversation, I don’t think I’ve been disrespectful to you.

I’m trying to be polite here and have a conversation, why are you unwilling to listen and instead engage in such behavior?

The article describes a time when I showed solidarity

I talked about your social media activity, not about you thinking something to yourself.

Yes. The article mentions (and condemns) this, as well

That’s irrelevant to my point. “Nuanced criticism” of the Iranian government the week before it’s invaded is bad strategy for socialists in the west, there’s already plenty of criticism in all media due to the anti-Iranian government atrocity propaganda. The entire thing circles down to you having good intentions by posting about progressives in Iran being repressed, but doing so during a period of extreme duress in the country which has been caused by the US+EU governments sanctions, and at a time when the country is about to be invaded by the US.

Your intentions are noble and commendable, and I respect them, but you’re unintentionally carrying water for the US invasion by replicating atrocity propaganda at this particular moment.

You linked a wikipedia article, did you write it yourself?

Because there are protests in Iran right now

And why exactly are those protests happening now, I wonder? Maybe because the US+EU imposed a sanction regime on Iran that has destroyed the national currency’s exchange value and massively impoverished the vast majority of the population? I’m sure that’s also coincidental and has nothing to do with attempts at regime change in the country. It’s not like the US has ever explicitly said that it applies economic sanctions to create hunger, desperation and overthrow of governments. Oh, wait…

You maynever criticize an enemy government of the US

The word “never” is the key point here. You may very well criticize the Iranian government and defend the progressives in the country, but I would bet 100€ that if we go 1 year back on any of your social media, you have never made this criticism before. Why now particularly, during the military buildup by the US before the imminent attack on Iran? Why specifically Iran too? Clue: it’s because the imperial propaganda apparatus has decided that discussing the repression in Iran right now is the agenda, as part of a larger atrocity propaganda campaign.

You ignored the second half of my comment, could you respond to that part? I’m not questioning that you have good intentions, I know you do, that’s not my point. I just want you to understand that directing the conversation towards where you’re directing it right before a military attack on Iran creates an easier atmosphere for the Empire to defend its invasion. It’s almost the definition of atrocity propaganda:

“Atrocity propaganda is the spreading of information about the crimes committed by an enemy, which can be factual, but often includes or features deliberate fabrications or exaggerations. This can involve photographs, videos, illustrations, interviews, and other forms of information presentation or reporting”.

With good intentions, undoubtedly, you’re presenting information on the repression of progressives in Iran, which is a bad thing which is happening, but doing so right before the invasion amounts to atrocity propaganda by definition.

You promote imperial propaganda by giving voice to opposition one week before a US invasion of a country. The only reason why you happen to care about Iranian protestors is because of the constant western-manufactured atrocity propaganda, which doesn’t need to be fake to serve its purpose of defeatism and of making opposition to armed invasion of Iran less unpalatable among progressives. It’s the same tactic of western media overfocusing on Hamas violence in Palestine during a period of literal genocide by Israel.