It is based of the posts and comments here on lemmy from leftists claiming Harris lost because ‘the DNC wasn’t left enough’. Also all the leftists here on lemme leading up to the elections claiming that both sides are the same and that we should vote 3rd party.

Regulatory capture and citizens united both exist to undo those checks and balances. No system is immune to corruption.

It’s a politicians job to cater to the people who actually vote. Moderates vote so democrats cater to them.

Republicans took voters from democrats by running ads that blamed “radical leftists democrats and their progressive policies” for inflation and every other problem under the sun.

Along with the leftists that didn’t vote this was enough to give the win to facists.

This is how US politics ratchets to the right.

Because leftists don’t vote for politicians that must cater to more than just leftists to win.

In a democracy it is the voters who decide. If leftists want to stay home because Kamala isn’t far enough left then we all get fascism.

According to the polls it was the economy that motivated voters the most and dems lost voters because of high inflation during Bidens term causing voters to think it was Bidens policies causing inflation.

Republican ads specifically blamed Bidens ‘progressive radically leftist’ policies.

This is what happens when the left doesn’t show up to vote because there aren’t any candidates far enough left in their opinion. The people that actually vote will be further right on the ideological spectrum and the right most candidate gets elected.

Also if you didn’t vote for Harris

A) they are policies to the left of center. Saying they are random policies doesn’t even make sense.

B) something less progressive but still left of center. Meaning a move to the left.

C) the way time works, things have to happen before 2024 for them to exist in 2024. No one is saying “too far left”. That’s a straw man you are try to create.

Your opinion of how left Kamala was doesn’t matter.

It’s the voters opinions that matters. Republican propaganda convinced voters that Kamala is a radical leftists.

I agree that you should stop replying based on your feelings. Join reality instead.

Claiming Liz Cheney is responsible for 13 million people not voting is the bullshit.

2020 had the highest voter turnout ever because of the pandemic.

Billionaires were doing things like buying votes to avoid being taxed by Kamala.

Republicans convinced many Americans that Biden and his “radical left wing” policies were responsible for inflation.

Enemy nations like China and Russia favored Trump and used their bot farms accordingly.

No one I know that voted irl ever even cared about Liz Cheney.

The idea that Liz Cheney could sway 13 million votes is ridiculous.

Yup. All the bad actors that don’t want American politicians reaching across the aisles. They will pretend they were totally gonna vote but now they have to let facism win to take the moral high ground.

Because the propaganda machine made up of foreign bot farms, billionaires and republican “news” media has convinced half the American population that it’s all fake news. Oh and most of the judicial system is corrupted by republican politicians.

Thanks for taking the time to type all that out. The person you were responding to was obviously arguing in bad faith and it’s been rampant lately.

But they didn’t do ranked choice. So for most of the primary it was Clinton VS Sanders. So we don’t know who would’ve won in ranked choice if all the other candidates stayed in. We only know that Sanders didn’t get as many votes as Clinton.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

The majority of voters in America are moderate, not far right or left. For all the candidates to support the person with the best chances of winning is called strategy. For you to claim that the DNC made that decision for each candidate is a conspiracy theory.

I think think there are more moderates that far left or far right because the majority of people are exposed to talking points from all ideologies.

I think the internet is causing more people to stay inside their echo chambers and drift further left or right instead of being exposed to nuance.

But I suppose capitalism has played a part in forming those echo chambers. Facebook being one example that comes to mind.

I don’t see how the decisions of each individual candidate would be considered a decision of the DNC.

Interesting read. I was hoping for evidence though instead of anecdote. Also, I don’t see how it supports this claim:

Because the DNC put their thumbs on the scales and did everything they could to lock him out of the process while doing the opposite for Clinton.

It was a calculated decision to win the election and Biden won the election. It was a decision made by the individual candidates. Not the DNC.

I would vote for Bernie but America has more moderate voters than far left or far right. That needs to be considered when deciding the next candidate.

Agreed. It is also the strategy that Russia openly admits to using to defeat the US from within.

I would like for them to be doing better than this also but if the person I responded to based their argument on the false claim that democrats are losing all the elections then they have already lost their credibility and are arguing in bad faith. So it is reasonable to expect for a source for their other claims.