I’m sorry you saw that stuff on the matrix its not what I stand for

Thats called the radical flank effect: the theory is that 20% of activists do 80% of the effective work and they provide a base for moderate vegans to onboard new vegans from, think of it like a curve where at each step of the way there is the option to go further, this is generally how radicalisation works but here the more effect work is down by the radical flank of veganism the longer and broader the tail of that curve becomes, for example think about how there now exists vegan tyre options from Michelin, that is infinitely better than if there wasn’t, and the fact that major restaurants all provide vegan options, it makes it harder and harder to justify the killing in more and more cirumstances, in your case you went vegetarian but because there is a radicalisation curve at each stage you were probably presented with more opportunities to take it further

Thank you, I’m not sure if its every Micheliln tyre but they certainly released at least one vegan tyre product youll have to double check!

ok i will try to be considerate

Yeah some part of me knows that or I wouldnt be using websites at all for fear of the hard drives that sustain it carrying animal flesh in their inks glues and plastics, but I just feel this incredible pressure and the worst part is for 4 years I thought I was divorced from this psycho shit, I thought, yeah I can do more to help others go vegan but as for me: I don’t pay for animal body parts in anything that I buy directly at least, then I think the first one I found out about was ink so I was like ok there seems to be vegan pens and printer ink and vegan hair dye and what not this doesnt seem too hard, but its when I found out that the vegan society doesnt even look at product packaging that it started getting hard. As for like mental strain what would you think of someone who said I needed cheering up so I got a dairy ice cream, like you could just not right. Buying that ice cream is murder

Please don’t call animals it, they are someone not something, changing the language around the oppression has a widespread knock on effect to changing people’s negative opinions towards non human animals

I am against that yes, there are more humane ways to protect yourself from insects including mosquito repellant and I think theres like a super high pitched noise they don’t like

No social justice movement has ever been successful by appealing to the sensibilities of the oppressor, I fully support confronting animal abusers to change their behaviour, it worked on me and it worked on the 8 people I’ve directly helped go vegan, I’m 4y vegan btw

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Thank you, I have seen there is little information collated about vegan instruments, this could be one of the only sources on the english internet for this

Could you include proof? if theyre email screenshots or too much for a lemmy post maybe you could link to a file hosting site and host a zip?

Believe the strategy or the concept of built vegans?

I think 1 makes more ethical vegans and 2 makes more health plant based dieters, Earthling Ed helped turn me vegan and then Gary Yourofsky radicalised me to become an animal rights activist

Sounds good, let me know if theres something I can do to support, and if you want to talk further I’m on simplex

I like this one, I will do next time I read a wikipedia article including animals, probably each time I see it from now on, I don’t read wikipedia as much as I used to but its a cool rebellious idea, I can just imagine the debates with wikipedia moderators after it sparks an edit war

me too, I like to joke that were in the top 1% of the top 1% seriously though when you start collecting social causes it starts to feel like youre all alone doesnt it, I’m glad we’ve got this space, I’m also an anarcho communist