Exactly what it looks like.

A violent, racist, fascist movement has risen to power and controls the world’s largest econonomy and military and stockpile of nuclear weapons.

Our (Im fucking trapped here) government is actively threatening external invasions, actively enacting economic warfare against other nations, and actively repressing its own people.

4th Reich, with American characteristics.

Ok.

You’re right that this could actually be an accurate characterization of the rule, teachers and schools do often implement ridiculous or poorly thought out, inefficient, easily gamed or difficult to enforce rules.

Back when I was in school, as cell phones were just becoming a widely available thing…

You set your phone on vibrate, and if it keeps going off, over and over, presumably this means someone or multiple people are urgently trying to contact you for some very important reason.

At that point you excuse yourself from the class, and look at your call log or texts or your voicemails.

If it actually is serious, tell your teacher what is going on, and they’ll send you to the office to either wait for someone to arrive or get you to the school therapist or whatever is appropriate.

Pretty much anything other than that is disruptive behavior.

Use something like a 3 strike rule before you confiscate a phone on the 3rd strike, and you get your phone back at the end of the school day.

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Ok, so I went diving into the actual reddit thread, and as best I can tell, this is the actual full source document of questions and answers.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rTAVSRU60ScQnQADF2WRAPKQFWRfYxM1B-mZCC1B_SA/mobilebasic

Going off of many other questions and answers, it appears the policy does confiscate a phone at the moment it is being used outside of permitted times and settings, and is then returned to the student at the end of the day for infraction 1, and all subsequent infractions require the parent to pick up the phone after confiscation.

A 2 strike rule set, I guess.

… However:

Anytime an official response is ‘Technically, yes’… yeah, they fucked up in the construction of their rule set.

… It would seem to me that a straightforward resolution to this problem would be that… in the event that infraction 2 occurs at the end of the day, just… confiscate the phone, and require a parent to pick it up, either at the end of that same school day, or after a 24 hour period if they really want to have a mandatory confiscation time as part of the punishment.

Part of the point of requiring a parent to pick up the phone is to basically mandate actual parental awareness of the issue, and they are already doing that…

So, infraction 2 escalates by now requiring the parent to pick up the phone, wheras infraction 1 does not.

I would think the escalation to getting a parent to pick it up would be a sufficient punishment, and the idea of some kind of… mandated minimum confiscation time scheme for the phone seems stupid, so long as the parent can pick up the phone after school has ended for the day.

But at the same time, there does appear to be some kind of admin acknowledged idea that… a phone would have to be essentially volunteered to be reconfiscated when a student returns on a subsequent day… which seems to me to be nonsensical and unenforceable without a mandated search of the kid… they could always just not bring the phone (or any phone) on day 2, and then you’d have to verify they are not lying… which is ass backwards presumption of guilt untill proved innocent that results in an unwarranted violation of their rights, even though they are complying with the general intent, the spirit of the rules.

I cannot reverse engineer the actual precise ruleset from this alone lol.

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Finally, as an aside … much of the reddit thread this is from make the arguement that cell phones shouldn’t be banned because what if school shooting.

So… 1, … all public schools… have… landline phones. They can dial out.

Ah, but what if the lines are all cut, or people can’t reach them?

2, … then just mandate that phones are not 100% literally physically banned… you just keep them off, or on silent, or on vibrate, and don’t use them during class.

… i am going to stick fork 1 in our friendship status, cuz its done.

Reinstate Eberhard and Tarpenning.

It’ll ruin the finish, but you could just use some sand paper… maybe 80 or 100 grit?

… thork?

Damn, that is the most perfect fork I’ve seen, wow.

Yeah I was gonna say 2’s prong/head with 5’s handle would probably be the best out of what’s available in the OP image, but yours is… sublime, hah.

As an Autist, I find it amazing that… after a lifetime of being compared to a robot, an android, a computer…

When humanity actually does manage to get around to creating “”“AI”“”… the AI fundamentally acts nothing like the general stereotype of fictional AIs, as similar to how an Autistic mind tends to evaluate information…

No, no, instead, it acts like an Allistic, Neurotypical person, who just confidently asserts and assumes things that it basically pulls out of its ass, often never takes any time to consider its own limitations as it pertains to correctly assessing context, domain specific meanings, more gramatically complex and ambiguous phrases … essentially never asks for clarifications, never seeks out addtional relevant information to give an actually useful and functional reply to an overly broad or vague question…

Nope, just barrels forward assuming its subjective interpretation of what you’ve said is the only objectively correct one, spouts out pithy nonsense… and then if you actually progress further and attempt to clarify what you actually meant, or ask it questions about itself and its own previous statements… it will gaslight the fuck out of you, even though its own contradictory / overconfident / unqualified hyperbolic statements are plainly evident, in text.

… Because it legitimately is not even aware that it is making subjective assumptions all over the place, all the time.

Anyway…

Back to ‘Autistic Mode’ for Mr. sp3ctr4l.

If I was on the Bethesda team, I would actually be very interested in trying to get feedback from the only other group of devs that remotely know what it’s like to do something similar. What approaches did they take? What’s similar? What’s different? Did the choices that other team make lead to a better product? How much more elegant is their code?

… And why didn’t Bethesda do this with the Skyblivion team?

Why didn’t they offer to at least pay them temporarily as contracted consultants?

Because management is full of themselves and maniacally, socio/psychopathically profit driven.

You can’t say they weren’t aware of the Skyblivion project, they literally coordinated a publicized action with them as part of their release schedule.

…

Game dev in particular, and even software dev generally, in America, at least… is absolutely chalk full of situations where one person or team or whatever’s work is either stolen, or fought over, or someone claims credit for a whole bunch of stuff they didn’t actually contribute nearly anything to, or make a whole big show of some streamlining effort that actually just cripples or eliminates the proverbial one dinky jenga block from the xkcd comic, and then all the blame for a whole bunch of other idiots’ plans, who never even consulted with the jenga block maintainer, well that guy or gal gets utterly blamed for all of it.

As well as of course all the NDAs and IP type bullshit where nothing even resembling what you did as a contractor or for another company can be used elsewhere, and become massively succesful, without a massive legal and financial threat.

… The actual devs, yes, did their work most likely without ‘lol lets fuck over these upstarts’ in mind.

That was in the mind of upper management and c suite though, guaranteed.

They don’t talk about that infront of the servants, I mean employees, I mean, who cares really, we’ll drive them nuts with crunch OT and then lay them off anyway, gaslighting them for the entire development cycle that that won’t happen.

…

Your instinct as a senior dev to reach out comes from a reasonable and good place.

But upper management and c suite is concerned with maximizing profit and business strategy, and in game dev, these folks have a long, stories history of routinely being as ruthless, cutthroat, duplicitous as possible.

It is warfare to them.

…

And I am not just pulling my credential check out of my ass here as some kind of gotcha style rhetoric, I also have worked in game dev, in software dev, in db admin and data analyst roles, for large corporations.

Though I do truly appreciate that you actually have the relevant credentials, and are talking from your own actually relevant experience, so I want to thank you for that, for actually having the conversation.

My experience has been almost entirely upper managers and VPs and the Board consistently doing the exact opposite of what actual developers suggest, request, or warn about, and then just slyly or sometimes quite brashly blame everyone else for causing the fuckups they were warned their plans would cause.

They think they are Gods and everyone else is a contemptible, digusting, unfortunately unavoidable part of doing business… and if a truly royal fuckup happens, they’ll turn on the people that built the corporate ladder they climbed without even a blink.

Dear fucking god, Florida.

… I proposed this as well, and another thing NaN is quite close to is… Naan bread, lol.

Basically a kind of flatbread, usually associated with India, sort of kind of like pita bread.

Its pronounced like… Non, at least the way I pronounce Non, as a PNW dialect English native speaker, not like Nan, as in Nanna, or other similar words to refer to a grandmother, or sometimes mother, different vowel sound.

Thanks, I appreciate it.

Sending ‘wise tortoise wins the race in the long run’ vibes back at you, hehe.

Thanks haha.

Always remember:

Sucking at something is the first step toward being kinda good at something.

=D

Depending on what programming language you are using, and precisely how you’ve coded a function, which exact numerical data types, and functions/methods you are using…

Actually attempting to divide something by zero will result in either NaN, Not a Number, Null, or an Unhandled Exception, as an… output value/error type.

I tried to explain ‘void’ a bit better, Im not personally familiar with any code language that’ll have ‘void’ as an output/error type when you try to divide by zero… but most people use the phrase ‘null and void’, so, my brain associated that word in as well.

As far as how those terms refer back to an anarchist mindset?

I am ‘not a number’, I am a human being, so are all others.

Null or nulled out has been a cyberpunkish slang term to refer to both an individual being seen as inherently unspecial, not unique, made into just another consumer/commodity… as well referring to actually killing or otherwise neutralizing someone or something… for decades now.

It seems you get the less programmy meaning of ‘unhandled exception’, in the ‘become ungovernable’ sense, but now hopefully you also get the math/programmer meaning, and see how these all work as double entendres or at least have somewhat esoteric meanings.

… The problem is that they don’t work as well in common speech as a replacement for common nouns… with at least one of the reasons why that is the case being that evidently the multifarious meanings are too esoteric, lol, which is why I said I was mostly proposing these as jokes.

… Or, you could swap out only the SIM card, have a new number, and the rest of the phone is literally exactly the same.

Most kids these days use social media apps for messenging and general time wasting in class… all they’d have to do is update their phone number with the major apps they use before they come into school the next day… all the contacts are in the apps themselves, not the OS’s contact list.

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Either way, you’re still missing the point that the kid’s entire question line is literally a non sequitur, a misdirect, a distraction via tangential discussion.

You are falling into the trap of bothering to engage in the actual ship of Theseus ‘what actually constitutes the same phone?’ argument that the teacher has.

The teacher, and you, do not realize that that is irrelevant, and were this some kind of debate bro / debate club debate, you would both have fallen for a rhetorical trap, wasting time arguing over something not germaine to the actual topic.

It doesn’t matter if the kid has millionaire parents and legitimately purchased and owned a brand new phone with a live phone plan every single day, and brought it to school.

Or if the kid stole phones, borrowed someone elses phone and was caught with it.

The rule is ‘no phones in class upon pain of confiscation’.

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Whether or not it is literally or philosophically the same phone, or a legitimately owned phone, or that particular student’s legitimately owned phone has absolutely no relevance.

… Its like how if you bring alcohol, drugs, or a gun to a school… whether or not they are your items doesn’t matter, whether or not its a single shot derringer or a full assault rifle doesn’t matter.

The leopard feasting will continue untill enough people actually do something useful and sensible to stop them… or we all die from a ballooning, out of control, leopard population.

I think the first two are… well they got more flair, more pizzazz than my suggestions!

Maybe you could … go from diverrs to like… webdivers, or some flaired up spelling of that?

More of an old school / stereotypical cyberpunk way of saying you’re doing a big deep dive into the net to find useful info, webdivers or netdivers.

Leech my seed!

… im sorry, rofl

These are mostly joke suggestions, but:

NaNs

nulls

voids

unhandled exceptions

… common theme here is the math/programming joke, but many of them also capture elements of anarchism, or can be interpreted as adopting a self-referential moniker which mocking the systems anarchists critique.

… probably it is a bit of a reach, but a good number of people refer to black cats as ‘voids’ these days, and … pretty decent history of angry black cats as symbols of anarchism.

You could also maybe l33tsp33k them up a bit?

Use ‘z’ instead of ‘s’ to pluralize?