Hi, I haven’t read this thread and I don’t really care to read all of it. I’ve always intended to get back into the Nix community after the issues with community management are sorted to my satisfaction. If jonrigner gets his commit bit back, I’m gonna be gone for good. Create whatever future you want to live in. Be well, Xe EDIT: Looks like his commit bit got back anyways. So long, and thanks for all the fish.
They invited that guy back. I do have to admit, I admire his inability to read a room.
The reply before this is also quite something, all angry somebody is saying they will leave if this carries on. I assume they would also be just as mad if somebody just started to ghost the project and just left because of this.
Wow doing a dive on somebodies post history is a bit creepy, not sure how I feel that every site now keeps (and makes public) that much info about everybody.
Otoh, from the ‘top categories (posts/replies)’ part:
lawl. (I’d assume a github profile is more important in this case, but I’m not going to dig into that, I already feel filthy).
No that is fair, it was a personal expression of disgust. A combination of being a bit of a private person and disliking how everything has public gamification and searchable logs now. That and I do not think what they said was that bad (just dumb, and the context made it worse) to warrant a full investigation ;).
nothing particularly wrong/dirty/whatever about this imo. hell, it’s just about an essential skill for researching in general, whether researching chuds or otherwise
Yeah it just feels dirty to me, I usually try to set those kinds of features to private the moment I become aware of them. (And I certainly have digged into peoples posts here before and then kept the info to myself as while what I found wasn’t great I think doing a sort of helldump (I think that was the term) even on chuds is a bit eurgh. Esp when the people themselves are just random people with a hundred followers. (Of course this depends on the type of person, neo-nazi types I’m a lot less friendlier to than other random meh people, like this attempt above at trying to put the ‘our community blew up’ back into the bottle tone police guy (that is the type of person they seem to be on reading my initial comment, didn’t dig further)).
/r/animememes :: Did not use the banned word “trap” but explained how banning the word was an empty meaningless gesture. Also, demonstrated how Communism is a failure (in the private messages with the mods). Despite doing as they asked, and despite not having broken the rules, they have not bothered to adhere to their end of the deal. Not surprising Communists never seem to do what they promise.
I just follow the prime directive with these people, but I think it’s mostly because I’m not good enough with words to accomplish anything by confronting them. I remember this one impassioned thread on like, /r/HarryPotter or maybe /r/books about HPMoR and all the crazy TREACLES stuff. And I understood them completely, but I felt bad because it had like, two comments, and neither really got what OP was trying to communicate. They were like, “I love HPMoR, it’s so upsetting that bad people online co-opted it! That’s crazy. Thanks for the heads up!”
The reply before this is also quite something, all angry somebody is saying they will leave if this carries on. I assume they would also be just as mad if somebody just started to ghost the project and just left because of this.
wow, sure is a strong community member there. you just know you can trust their takes on community participation!
(idly: lol, didn’t know discourse made those stats public, but hilariously useful for muh sneer)
Wow doing a dive on somebodies post history is a bit creepy, not sure how I feel that every site now keeps (and makes public) that much info about everybody.
Otoh, from the ‘top categories (posts/replies)’ part:
lawl. (I’d assume a github profile is more important in this case, but I’m not going to dig into that, I already feel filthy).
nah, not going to allow “looking into the chud’s extensive comet tail of receipts is bad” as any sort of discourse norm
No that is fair, it was a personal expression of disgust. A combination of being a bit of a private person and disliking how everything has public gamification and searchable logs now. That and I do not think what they said was that bad (just dumb, and the context made it worse) to warrant a full investigation ;).
nothing particularly wrong/dirty/whatever about this imo. hell, it’s just about an essential skill for researching in general, whether researching chuds or otherwise
also fwiw this was, like, “clicking their name in the forum to see who the hell they were”. I barely even started digging :D
Yeah it just feels dirty to me, I usually try to set those kinds of features to private the moment I become aware of them. (And I certainly have digged into peoples posts here before and then kept the info to myself as while what I found wasn’t great I think doing a sort of helldump (I think that was the term) even on chuds is a bit eurgh. Esp when the people themselves are just random people with a hundred followers. (Of course this depends on the type of person, neo-nazi types I’m a lot less friendlier to than other random meh people, like this attempt above at trying to put the ‘our community blew up’ back into the bottle tone police guy (that is the type of person they seem to be on reading my initial comment, didn’t dig further)).
“Helldump” is my new favorite term for that
Sometimes you find really crazy stuff in people’s histories. This year, I’ve found a Black neo-nazi, an alt-right plural system, and a Thelemist who is just so beyond the pale I literally cannot paraphrase what they said and have to quote it in full: https://www.reddit.com/user/Nexist418/comments/i6is83/banned_reddits_and_the_reasons_if_known/
I just follow the prime directive with these people, but I think it’s mostly because I’m not good enough with words to accomplish anything by confronting them. I remember this one impassioned thread on like, /r/HarryPotter or maybe /r/books about HPMoR and all the crazy TREACLES stuff. And I understood them completely, but I felt bad because it had like, two comments, and neither really got what OP was trying to communicate. They were like, “I love HPMoR, it’s so upsetting that bad people online co-opted it! That’s crazy. Thanks for the heads up!”
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