• @muhyb
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    They indeed draw attention. It’s basically there is no good or bad advertising from their point. However, this is a fantasy world and people would like to see psychically appealing characters, especially the playable ones. I believe this is the root issue.

    When they have no good material, they start to promote unrelated things to gameplay. This is just one of those things.

    • Carighan Maconar
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      When they have no good material, they start to promote unrelated things to gameplay. This is just one of those things.

      Didn’t YOU just say that people focus on the visuals of characters? As in, something unrelated to gameplay?

      • @muhyb
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        02 hours ago

        Visuals are part of the experience, it’s not unrelated. Gameplay is the core, you only have make up without it. If the game turn out to be good, most of these will be forgotten. There are a lot of good games that can be considered as “woke” and no one talk about them like this. Because they are good games.

        • Carighan Maconar
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          Visuals are part of the experience, it’s not unrelated.

          Why? Or rather, why this, but apparently not your character or their back story?

          There are a lot of good games that can be considered as “woke” and no one talk about them like this.

          [citation needed]

          • @muhyb
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            On broader range everything in the game is part of the experience. However there is a significance order to that. Core gameplay loop comes first, every person who plays the game experience this. Back story is lore. To me lore is also important and a very enjoyable part of the games, but some people are not interested in this and they tend to skip these parts. If they are optional (like reading books in Skyrim or reading pamphlets in Shadowrun etc.) they don’t even bother with them.

            Citation: Cyberpunk 2077, Baldur’s Gate 3, I can even put Stardew Valley in this list, though not as vocal as others. I didn’t see anyone bash these games as being woke, or maybe they are a minority if there are.

            • Carighan Maconar
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              150 minutes ago

              So “woke” means all of the following together, trying to summarize:

              • A game includes anything related to LGBTQ+ or political left-leaning ideology.
              • The above is presented via non-gameplay elements. It’s fine if its in the gameplay.
              • The game was a commercial flop or critically panned.

              Did I sum that up correctly?

              • @muhyb
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                132 minutes ago

                Not sure how commercial flop part is related but from what I understand from the people who talk about this, yeah it’s more or less something like that. Though I can easily say that many people have different definition of “woke” in their minds and it shows. Consistency differs.

                This is my conclusion, from what I see, it is mostly about TQ+ part.