• Carighan Maconar
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    43 hours ago

    So “woke” means all of the following together, trying to summarize:

    • A game includes anything related to LGBTQ+ or political left-leaning ideology.
    • The above is presented via non-gameplay elements. It’s fine if its in the gameplay.
    • The game was a commercial flop or critically panned.

    Did I sum that up correctly?

    • @muhyb
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      Not sure how commercial flop part is related but from what I understand from the people who talk about this, yeah it’s more or less something like that. Though I can easily say that many people have different definition of “woke” in their minds and it shows. Consistency differs.

      This is my conclusion, from what I see, it is mostly about TQ+ part.

      • Carighan Maconar
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        58 minutes ago

        So this then begs the question, why are people decrying games as “woke” trying so hard to push their political agenda into gaming discussions? After all, as per point 1 + point 3, the game was already criticized/panned anyways, then someone came in and tries to push the critique onto a political level instead of a game one.

        • @muhyb
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          120 minutes ago

          That’s a good question. I think it’s more like reciprocal, as a counter measure from conservative people. I wouldn’t approach this as left and right quarrel. What we see is political but not in its core I believe, it’s pushed into politics.

          If simplify it, this whole debate is around having transition chest scars as a customization option, at least that’s what I see. Woke is just a bigger cluster here.