• fuzzy_feeling
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    i’m interested to know, how long it might take for germany to really get the defence industry going.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      Not gonna happen without access to cheap energy. Meanwhile, any resources Germany devotes towards the military industry come directly at the cost of allocating resources and labor towards socially useful purposes. Given that the standard of living in Germany is already collapsing, that can only make the political situation worse.

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        Military projects can create lots of jobs in all sorts of sectors, R&D, production, computer science, engineering and logistics just to name a few.

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          This is true when you already have a well functioning core economy which Germany does not. Resource allocation is a zero sum game, and if people are struggling meeting basic needs then none of these things are going to be relevant to them.

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            well, there’s a big automotive industry idling, cause they missed the ev train…

            they’ll need to invest in infrastucture.
            there are lng terminals at low capacity right now.
            i’ve heard about 200b€ in ger alone. on eu level i heard there might be more in the making.

            there will be need for many working hands.

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              Maybe if VW really does get sold off to a Chinese company then Germany might see some EVs in the future. Meanwhile, LNG is very expensive compared to pipeline gas that China gets. The key problem for German industry is that it’s not competitive compared to its rivals. The firs thing Germany has to do is solve its energy problem. That means either going back to pipeline gas from Russia or making a serious investment in nuclear and renewables. The latter is going to be a long process.

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        Germany need to reform their economic policy so that the government can take huge loans and invest in defense, infrastructure and energy. Things will be tough but at least there’s one single obvious solution. If Germany (CDU + SPD) don’t, AfD will take over and Europe will experience something like the 1930s all over again.