Google's search deal with Mozilla is such a sizeable portion of its overall income that without it, Firefox would struggle to compete - or even survive,
I didn’t ignore it at all, I addressed it by saying it was shut down five years ago. Until they release something to the public, it’s still unsupported.
Vertical tabs? PWAs don’t even have tabs. Why are you bringing this up? The browser extension you mentioned is from a 3rd party (and I have tried in the past and gave up because it just didn’t work, which was a far cry from the easy to use PWA support Firefox once had).
Look, just because we disagree, doesn’t mean we can’t be civil. I am not personally attacking you.
Vertical tabs? PWAs don’t even have tabs. Why are you bringing this up?
They are examples of extremely wanted features that the firefox community has been asked for a while, but have only been added now.
he browser extension you mentioned is from a 3rd party (and I have tried in the past and gave up because it just didn’t work, which was a far cry from the easy to use PWA support Firefox once had).
Worked on my machine ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I disagree with the idea that Google’s money comes with strings attached that influence the development of Mozilla Firefox. Google props Firefox up in order to avoid being hit by anti trust laws. Trying to explicitly or implicitly use that money for to intentionally Firefox bad, would be extremely risky, as if the slightest bit of evidence was out, they would immediately be hit with an antitrust suit, and it would defeat the purpose of the money.
Well, they are being hit with one right now, but it’s not about the Google-Mozilla relations, but instead Google’s dominance as a default search engine.
The loss of PWA Site-Specific Browsers is an interesting coincidence — but that’s all it is, a coincidence. The fact that they are being readded as an official feature, but only after Firefox got a UI rewrite is evidence that there are other internal and unrelated factors at play.
Google maintains their dominance by adding to web standards very quickly, making it difficult for other browser engines to keep up, and “accidentally” breaking youtube on other browsers, in addition to other shenanigans. No browser engine will have the resources to keep up with that, and they don’t have to keep firefox intentionally bad by denying power users features when the vast majority of users will find something that youtube doesn’t work on unusable.
I didn’t ignore it at all, I addressed it by saying it was shut down five years ago. Until they release something to the public, it’s still unsupported.
Vertical tabs? PWAs don’t even have tabs. Why are you bringing this up? The browser extension you mentioned is from a 3rd party (and I have tried in the past and gave up because it just didn’t work, which was a far cry from the easy to use PWA support Firefox once had).
Look, just because we disagree, doesn’t mean we can’t be civil. I am not personally attacking you.
They are examples of extremely wanted features that the firefox community has been asked for a while, but have only been added now.
Worked on my machine ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I disagree with the idea that Google’s money comes with strings attached that influence the development of Mozilla Firefox. Google props Firefox up in order to avoid being hit by anti trust laws. Trying to explicitly or implicitly use that money for to intentionally Firefox bad, would be extremely risky, as if the slightest bit of evidence was out, they would immediately be hit with an antitrust suit, and it would defeat the purpose of the money.
Well, they are being hit with one right now, but it’s not about the Google-Mozilla relations, but instead Google’s dominance as a default search engine.
The loss of PWA Site-Specific Browsers is an interesting coincidence — but that’s all it is, a coincidence. The fact that they are being readded as an official feature, but only after Firefox got a UI rewrite is evidence that there are other internal and unrelated factors at play.
Google maintains their dominance by adding to web standards very quickly, making it difficult for other browser engines to keep up, and “accidentally” breaking youtube on other browsers, in addition to other shenanigans. No browser engine will have the resources to keep up with that, and they don’t have to keep firefox intentionally bad by denying power users features when the vast majority of users will find something that youtube doesn’t work on unusable.