The CEO is begging for Google to be kept alive. What a joke. How can we take Mozilla seriously when it’s being led by such a person. It’s like VW praying the Nazis to win so that they don’t lose funding.
Nah, it’s vital for the CEO’s pay. Firefox can survive on its own just fine. Perhaps even better.
I agree that the executive pay is ridiculously high, but Mozilla does a lot more than fund Firefox. Off the top of my head, there’s contribute to research and standards (occasionally standing up to Google and Apple), run MDN and similar sites, lobby for user-friendly regulations, fund other projects (maybe that’s in the past?), and advocate without corporate bias.
I know there’s a Mozilla foundation and a Mozilla corporatilla foundation and a Mozilla corporation and I’m not clear which one does what tbh.
From what I hear about the Firefox code base, I think the best thing we can hope for is at Firefox manages to hold on until one of the new browser engines is mature enough to take over.
The pay isn’t the only problem, it’s not even the main problem. The problem is that Google money comes with strings attached. There’s obvious corruption in the Mozilla corporation. Just as an example, Firefox was at the forefront of implementing PWA, before everyone else, before it was called PWA even. Google’s money started really pouring in, and they dropped it. Then they kept axing features and not listening to their community, stopped doing research in things that users cared about and went off on tangents no one wanted (and are still doing that with AI). Mozilla kept losing market share at the same rate C-suite bonuses climbed.
Google’s money is a cancer that needs to be excised. Mozilla can still go back to being the amazing company it was before, but only if that money is gone.
That’s not quite true with the pwa thing. Many of the features of pwa support, particularly the interesting ability to have them work offline, were and are still supported in firefox.
What doesn’t work is the ability to view websites as their own “app”. This feature was most likely dropped because Firefox had to basically rewrite their UI engine, but now that it’s done, we are seeing things like native sidebar (instead of topbar) tabs, and web apps (2025 article) get added again/officially.
Yeah I just did a quick test with photopea.com and it worked offline in firefox.
Helping them out in court would be the main string.
I believe that’s the main reason they are paying Mozilla. To make them look kinda good.
Correlation does not equal causation.
Are you saying Google paid for them to stop implementing pwa?
I’m glad when the google money goes away. I like using firefox but mozilla needs to get off their money addiction.
But it will almost certainly result in reduced browser competition, handing more market share over to the likes of, er, Google, Apple, Microsoft and OpenAI, if they’re able to buy Google Chrome — companies with questionable interest in furthering the “open web” Mozilla fights for.
I missed this one go by:
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