• adr1an
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    19 hours ago

    I wonder if the downvotes are people ignoring genocide or what, and on towards which side . . .

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      18 hours ago

      Germany, Russia, Japan and USA all had concentration camps of some sorts and all committed some form of genocide:

      • Russia towards the eastern Europe population
      • Japan towards the Chinese
      • USA it depends if you consider two atomic bombs a genocide, they sure didn’t like the Japanese but maybe they are the only ones I would be slightly more hesitant to accuse of genocide
      • Germany for sure was the most horrible of them mostly for their sistematic and “effective” approach
      • honorable mentions are Italy in Africa (that failed miserably but definitely had the intent) and the United Kingdom in India

      Let’s be real, at that time most countries where fucking evil. This is not to say that everyone was equally bad (as I said, Germany was really extra bad, and maybe the Nazi degeneracy helped everyone acknowledge how rotten the world was becoming), but if Russia weren’t amongst the “winners”, their horrors would spoken aloud a lot more.

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        16 hours ago

        Russia weren’t amongst the “winners”

        The Soviet Union was the target of the Nazis.

        It’s pretty wild how nationalism allows for this kind of deflection for Nazis and the Holocaust by imagining what the nation of Russia within the USSR could have done in the face of what the Nazis actually did as the invading belligerent in a war of extermination.

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        16 hours ago
        • USA it depends if you consider two atomic bombs a genocide, they sure didn’t like the Japanese but maybe they are the only ones I would be slightly more hesitant to accuse of genocide put Japanese Americans into literal concentration camps, and did their level best to genocide the Native American population.
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        12 hours ago

        Yeah, the Germans were systematic and that makes them worst. Thanks for answering, I was asking sincerely. Pretty much agreed on the comment that said that it was like asking if its worst to get stabbed in the right or left lung. Now I see the oversimplification, since in one case we have that “effectiveness” trait.

        In any case, bwfore doing any ranking one should ask “why” do it… Like, what’s the aim here.

        But, since we are doing it, let me bring the case of Latin America. The royalty of both Spain and Portugal are to be scrutinized. If not for their systematic approaches, let’s just try comparing the numbers. Entire civilizations were decimated. And the years it took were long enough to have settlers perpetuating actions locally… Oh, the cheery on top of it all is that until recently this wasn’t acknowledged even at schools. Even today there are statues of f*ing Columbus in Spain. Or museums with weapons of ‘Conquistadores’ without really stopping to reflect upon the terror they brought to natives. And not so long ago, in Latin América, 12th Oct. was a holiday for commemorating the “discovery” of the continent… Just plain as that. Obscene and insidious genocide. For me, it’s at the top.

        Once, I read that Nazism is the internalization within Europe of Colonialist practices, only modernized (e.g. gas chambers vs. contagious blankets). Mindblowin’ eh?