Poverty is inherited and it’s impossible to pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Black people in America are poor because they used to be slaves
That’s capitalism’s fault. Poor white kids would face the same issues.
Black people are under-represented in universities, so the university scientists building facial recognition apps aren’t building them to work on black people
That’s just a lack of data points and not a system constructed by anyone. The data points should be increasing naturally.
Schools teach their lessons in english. Multilingual students who don’t speak english at home often have a disadvantage in lessons that will be felt their whole lives
It’d be awesome if we can just solve language barriers generally. Before we can do that having a single official language in working situations seems to be not avoidable for productivity.
Children of illegal immigrants may have never received identification such as a birth certificate and it can be hard to get this as an adult
Not related to racism.
Whenever the police use robotic and computer systems to detect criminals the AI ends up racial profiling and harassing black people
Is this happening? I think it’s straight out wrong to predict criminals with AI trained on previous data.
All in all I agree that many of the existing systems sucks but I don’t think it’s helpful to link every problem to racism. Disclaimer: I’m not black or white
Lack of public black faces as suggested by previous comment? That’s not a “system” tho, which would imply something like a policy to reject black faces as learning data.
That’s capitalism’s fault. Poor white kids would face the same issues.
True, but that’s not what the discussion was about. Black kids are disproportionately poorer than white kids, and that’s because they inherited inequalities from the past, which came about because of slavery and systematic racism.
It’d be awesome if we can just solve language barriers generally. Before we can do that having a single official language in working situations seems to be not avoidable for productivity
What you are suggesting is a lingua franca, which is already the norm in multilingual countries. That’s quite different from having a colonial language dominating over the others.
Lingua franca is a language that 2 groups speaking a different language both understand, English is a lingua franca.
It makes sense to teach in 2 languages when bit percentages of the population speak them, in the case of America teaching native American language would be pointless for the children aside from preventing the language from dying
True, but that’s not what the discussion was about. Black kids are disproportionately poorer than white kids, and that’s because they inherited inequalities from the past, which came about because of slavery and systematic racism.
True. But we should make a system to help the poor people to fix that instead of a system to help the poor black specifically.
That’s quite different from having a colonial language dominating over the others.
And what are the difference? I don’t think they ever ban you from using languages other than English. Just that the priority is to teach the most commonly used language.
Yeah, cops are using ai facial recognition to identify suspects. As mentioned ai facial recognition is really bad at identifying black people particularly. This results in an increased incidence of wrongful arrest. In America, something like 2/3 of cases go to a plea deal because the people involved cannot afford to fight the charges, so this also results in increases in wrongful conviction.
Cops also use ai to tell where to focus patrols. This uses historical arrest data, often dating back to the 50s. The police tend to arrest more people in areas they patrol more heavily, so the ai ends up suggesting more patrols in areas which were previously sivject to discriminatory laws. They’ve automated away discrimanotory over-policing
That’s capitalism’s fault. Poor white kids would face the same issues.
That’s just a lack of data points and not a system constructed by anyone. The data points should be increasing naturally.
It’d be awesome if we can just solve language barriers generally. Before we can do that having a single official language in working situations seems to be not avoidable for productivity.
Not related to racism.
Is this happening? I think it’s straight out wrong to predict criminals with AI trained on previous data.
All in all I agree that many of the existing systems sucks but I don’t think it’s helpful to link every problem to racism. Disclaimer: I’m not black or white
But why is the data lacking in the first place?
Lack of public black faces as suggested by previous comment? That’s not a “system” tho, which would imply something like a policy to reject black faces as learning data.
You’re way too smart for this site, I thought reddit echo chambers were bad
True, but that’s not what the discussion was about. Black kids are disproportionately poorer than white kids, and that’s because they inherited inequalities from the past, which came about because of slavery and systematic racism.
What you are suggesting is a lingua franca, which is already the norm in multilingual countries. That’s quite different from having a colonial language dominating over the others.
Lingua franca is a language that 2 groups speaking a different language both understand, English is a lingua franca.
It makes sense to teach in 2 languages when bit percentages of the population speak them, in the case of America teaching native American language would be pointless for the children aside from preventing the language from dying
True. But we should make a system to help the poor people to fix that instead of a system to help the poor black specifically.
And what are the difference? I don’t think they ever ban you from using languages other than English. Just that the priority is to teach the most commonly used language.
There are a bunch of articles about it. Here’s one about it in general
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/15/technology/artificial-intelligence-google-bias.html
And one with a few examples of ai used in criminal justice
https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/5-algorithms-that-demonstrate-artificial-intelligence-bias/
https://lemmy.world/post/3768607
More badly trained AI.
Yeah, cops are using ai facial recognition to identify suspects. As mentioned ai facial recognition is really bad at identifying black people particularly. This results in an increased incidence of wrongful arrest. In America, something like 2/3 of cases go to a plea deal because the people involved cannot afford to fight the charges, so this also results in increases in wrongful conviction.
Cops also use ai to tell where to focus patrols. This uses historical arrest data, often dating back to the 50s. The police tend to arrest more people in areas they patrol more heavily, so the ai ends up suggesting more patrols in areas which were previously sivject to discriminatory laws. They’ve automated away discrimanotory over-policing