• JackbyDev
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    2 months ago

    Are you serious? That’s a thing? I’ve been doing apt update and apt upgrade for years

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        2 months ago

        && executes the second command, if the command before was successful, || executes the second command if the first one was unsuccessful and ; executes the second command regardless of success.

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        1 month ago

        Yeah, I was doing sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade

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          1 month ago

          I may be totally confused but I’ve also always done it in that order, otherwise I feel like it would run upgrades from your cache of the apt repos (possibly hitting errors as stuff likes to change), then after it would run apt update (updating the repos).

          My thought has always been update repos, then check those repos for software upgrades. I could definitely be wrong though.

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            1 month ago

            Presumably running upgrade with the update flag does it all in one go.

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              1 month ago

              Yeah but shouldn’t the order matter? My understanding was that && just said 'after the previous command, run this… ’ so running upgrade before update would miss any changes changes to repos… From what I can tell update is required before upgrade (just like you have it), doing it in reverse missed a ton of updates for me.

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                1 month ago

                If it were upgrade && update, yes that would miss the boat. --update is a baked in feature of apt upgrade, so it knows what to do ^_^

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                1 month ago

                Presumably running upgrade with the update flag is smart enough to do it in the proper order because there would be no point in doing it in the opposite order. Many other package managers just work like this out of the box. Homebrew is such an example. Running upgrade automatically does “update” first.

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                  1 month ago

                  My apologies, I didn’t read your first reply well enough, you had mention with the update flag but my brain was still on the &&.

    • Cevilia (she/they/…)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      2 months ago

      I’m absolutely serious.

      You can also add a package name to install it at the same time as doing the upgrade, though personally I prefer to do that as a separate command so I can see what dependencies are needed.