I know Obama wasn’t perfect, but of you’re going to claim that he was as harmful to the world as Trump, then I’m going to tell you that you’re a fucking idiot who simply likes the view from an imaginary high horse
The civilised world sneers at your country for good reason, and Obama was definitely part of the machinery, but he was immeasurably better than what you stupid cunts (as a country) elected, but if you’d rather sit in a could of your own farts, then you’re no better
did I say “as bad”. Trump is way worse. Like not even the same league. but that isn’t the point. its the “Lesserevilism” that you’re spewing which led to Trump.
I’m already doing all one person can do. I work in mutual mutual aid to feed people the system has left behind (even before Trump).
And trust me, as someone who lived in many countries, the entire world IS tried of all this American bullshit. they have been tried of it way before Trump.
please shut the fuck Up and stop excusing war criminals who belong in jail.
I despise America. I recognise that there are many good people there, but as a country, I can’t wait for it to fall and stop making everywhere else worse because of their idiocy
The erosion of every institution that was meant to stop him began wat before. Trump didn’t create ICE, he didn’t invent doing wars without Congress approval, he didn’t create the surveillance state…
If you only blame Trump, when he is finally gone, then nothing will change.
and? the supreme Court still declared president are immune to crimes? the police state is able to kill and disappear whoever? the military can bomb schools and hospitals with impunity.
next neolib will not fix shite. and next conservative will make things even worse.
Fascists have been running in every Republican Primary since my Grandfather’s time. They never used to get any traction outside of the fringiest of the fringe.
The reasons Trump did gain traction are twofold:
The biggest one is that bipartisan neoliberalism has pushed the working class to such desperation that the standard fascist tactics of blaming the internal contradictions of capitalism on immigrants and queer people started working on enough of the working class to move the needle.
Secondarily, and the reason the dam broke in 2016 when it could have held for another decade or two is that Hillary Clinton and her campaign had their friends in the media start treating Trump as a legitimate candidate to use him as a “pied piper”, and it backfired spectacularly.
but it is that Lesserevilism that led to Trump. every time we excused President’s atrocities, corruption, and war crimes because they were on “our side” we paved the way to Trump.
why is it bad that Trump blew up a school when Obama bombed a wedding?
why is it bad for trump to mass deport when Obama did that too?
Why is it bad for conservatives when Democrats do it too?
Lesserevilism is the actual political ideology of the United States and this is where it led.
I remember this guy. Obama, right? In my region he is famous for setting embargo on weapons trade with Ukraine and for “Perezagruzka” with Russia.
Libs want to parade him like a hero, but he is cut from the same neoliberal cloth that has been fucking us over for decades.
I’m not some stupid 'Murican
I know Obama wasn’t perfect, but of you’re going to claim that he was as harmful to the world as Trump, then I’m going to tell you that you’re a fucking idiot who simply likes the view from an imaginary high horse
The civilised world sneers at your country for good reason, and Obama was definitely part of the machinery, but he was immeasurably better than what you stupid cunts (as a country) elected, but if you’d rather sit in a could of your own farts, then you’re no better
Do something, or shut the fuck up
The rest of the world is tired of your stupidity
did I say “as bad”. Trump is way worse. Like not even the same league. but that isn’t the point. its the “Lesserevilism” that you’re spewing which led to Trump.
I’m already doing all one person can do. I work in mutual mutual aid to feed people the system has left behind (even before Trump).
And trust me, as someone who lived in many countries, the entire world IS tried of all this American bullshit. they have been tried of it way before Trump.
please shut the fuck Up and stop excusing war criminals who belong in jail.
I’m not a yank
I despise America. I recognise that there are many good people there, but as a country, I can’t wait for it to fall and stop making everywhere else worse because of their idiocy
its decay to fascism was so slow, obvious, and avoidable. but it was profitable for a few people, and Americans were told be selfish.
No it’s voting for Trump in the primary then general twice that lead to Trump.
The erosion of every institution that was meant to stop him began wat before. Trump didn’t create ICE, he didn’t invent doing wars without Congress approval, he didn’t create the surveillance state…
If you only blame Trump, when he is finally gone, then nothing will change.
Trump will be gone which is a pretty big change.
and? the supreme Court still declared president are immune to crimes? the police state is able to kill and disappear whoever? the military can bomb schools and hospitals with impunity.
next neolib will not fix shite. and next conservative will make things even worse.
Trump has put three justices in the SCOTUS so far.
Look, I don’t disagree with you at all
But you appear to be looking to preach to the converted
I get the frustration, but the people you are arguing with aren’t your enemy
still, even here when you complain about Obama or Biden people come with pitchforks defending them because there are worse presidents.
I’m fucking sick of Lesserevilism.
we can do better, participate in primaries (not only presidential, but all of them). and better vote third party than a lesser evil one.
Absolutely not. These midterms are going to change the direction of the next two years.
Fascists have been running in every Republican Primary since my Grandfather’s time. They never used to get any traction outside of the fringiest of the fringe.
The reasons Trump did gain traction are twofold:
The biggest one is that bipartisan neoliberalism has pushed the working class to such desperation that the standard fascist tactics of blaming the internal contradictions of capitalism on immigrants and queer people started working on enough of the working class to move the needle.
Secondarily, and the reason the dam broke in 2016 when it could have held for another decade or two is that Hillary Clinton and her campaign had their friends in the media start treating Trump as a legitimate candidate to use him as a “pied piper”, and it backfired spectacularly.
And for all of his numerous flaws he is probably the best president of my entire lifetime. Depending on how you feel about Clinton I guess.
It’s a sad reality
the bar is so low, it’s barely a tripping hazard.
have a depressive exercise, go to Wikipedia and go one by one, to find a president that shouldn’t be locked in jail for war crimes.
I only found Jimmy Carter.
While that’s true, he was still miles better than most other recent presidents.
but it is that Lesserevilism that led to Trump. every time we excused President’s atrocities, corruption, and war crimes because they were on “our side” we paved the way to Trump.
why is it bad that Trump blew up a school when Obama bombed a wedding?
why is it bad for trump to mass deport when Obama did that too?
Why is it bad for conservatives when Democrats do it too?
Lesserevilism is the actual political ideology of the United States and this is where it led.
Obama was part of the neoliberal group. Trump is part of the fascist group. Not the same.
Pardon me. Obama was neoliberal (leads to fascism) while Trump was a fascist. very different.
Fascism brings the imperialist violence back home.
Are you under the assumption in happy about the situation and just want to blame Obama?
because so far it seems like you’re trying to get Obama off the hook.
we have to accept that unless forced to, Democrats won’t save us