• username_1
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      7 天前

      I remember this guy. Obama, right? In my region he is famous for setting embargo on weapons trade with Ukraine and for “Perezagruzka” with Russia.

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        6 天前

        Libs want to parade him like a hero, but he is cut from the same neoliberal cloth that has been fucking us over for decades.

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          I’m not some stupid 'Murican

          I know Obama wasn’t perfect, but of you’re going to claim that he was as harmful to the world as Trump, then I’m going to tell you that you’re a fucking idiot who simply likes the view from an imaginary high horse

          The civilised world sneers at your country for good reason, and Obama was definitely part of the machinery, but he was immeasurably better than what you stupid cunts (as a country) elected, but if you’d rather sit in a could of your own farts, then you’re no better

          Do something, or shut the fuck up

          The rest of the world is tired of your stupidity

          • 🍉 Albert 🍉@lemmy.world
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            did I say “as bad”. Trump is way worse. Like not even the same league. but that isn’t the point. its the “Lesserevilism” that you’re spewing which led to Trump.

            I’m already doing all one person can do. I work in mutual mutual aid to feed people the system has left behind (even before Trump).

            And trust me, as someone who lived in many countries, the entire world IS tried of all this American bullshit. they have been tried of it way before Trump.

            please shut the fuck Up and stop excusing war criminals who belong in jail.

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              6 天前

              I’m not a yank

              I despise America. I recognise that there are many good people there, but as a country, I can’t wait for it to fall and stop making everywhere else worse because of their idiocy

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                its decay to fascism was so slow, obvious, and avoidable. but it was profitable for a few people, and Americans were told be selfish.

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                The erosion of every institution that was meant to stop him began wat before. Trump didn’t create ICE, he didn’t invent doing wars without Congress approval, he didn’t create the surveillance state…

                If you only blame Trump, when he is finally gone, then nothing will change.

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                  6 天前

                  Look, I don’t disagree with you at all

                  But you appear to be looking to preach to the converted

                  I get the frustration, but the people you are arguing with aren’t your enemy

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                Fascists have been running in every Republican Primary since my Grandfather’s time. They never used to get any traction outside of the fringiest of the fringe.

                The reasons Trump did gain traction are twofold:

                The biggest one is that bipartisan neoliberalism has pushed the working class to such desperation that the standard fascist tactics of blaming the internal contradictions of capitalism on immigrants and queer people started working on enough of the working class to move the needle.

                Secondarily, and the reason the dam broke in 2016 when it could have held for another decade or two is that Hillary Clinton and her campaign had their friends in the media start treating Trump as a legitimate candidate to use him as a “pied piper”, and it backfired spectacularly.

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          And for all of his numerous flaws he is probably the best president of my entire lifetime. Depending on how you feel about Clinton I guess.

          It’s a sad reality

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            the bar is so low, it’s barely a tripping hazard.

            have a depressive exercise, go to Wikipedia and go one by one, to find a president that shouldn’t be locked in jail for war crimes.

            I only found Jimmy Carter.

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          While that’s true, he was still miles better than most other recent presidents.

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            but it is that Lesserevilism that led to Trump. every time we excused President’s atrocities, corruption, and war crimes because they were on “our side” we paved the way to Trump.

            why is it bad that Trump blew up a school when Obama bombed a wedding?

            why is it bad for trump to mass deport when Obama did that too?

            Why is it bad for conservatives when Democrats do it too?

            Lesserevilism is the actual political ideology of the United States and this is where it led.

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                6 天前

                Are you under the assumption in happy about the situation and just want to blame Obama?

                because so far it seems like you’re trying to get Obama off the hook.

                we have to accept that unless forced to, Democrats won’t save us

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      6 天前

      Well, he actually is in the Epstein files.

      But it’s just the perpetrators talking shit, because they’re a bunch of bitches lmao

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        6 天前

        Massively better than what’s available now, but still not the best I could wish for. And that Nobel Prize he didn’t deserve neither.

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            For the other uncultured swines like me:

            ​What Does “Inured” Mean? ​

            ​​To be inured means to be so used to something—usually something unpleasant or difficult—that you are no longer bothered by it. You’ve essentially built up a “thick skin” or become toughened. ​

            ​​Synonyms: Hardened, habituated, desensitized, toughened. ​

            ​​The Nuance: You aren’t just “used to” it (like a routine); you are “accustomed to hardship.”

            Okay, now I know the word, but I’m not sure what the sentence means. You mean Obama was open to criticism?

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              I slightly misused it, my bad. It’s usually used in context of “it doesn’t matter” - ie I meant “criticism matters” but you’re right that I didn’t use it strictly.according to the dictionary definition.

              I probably just meant “immune” but wasn’t thinking deeply about it.

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          If I go on trial for murder, I’ll tell the judge I’m innocent just because there are people who did worse crimes?

          if I cheat on my wife, it is not a big deal, because some people cheat and beat their wives, so I’m not that bad…

          Please, shove that Lesserevilism up the deepest darkest cavity in your body.

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            That’s not what I said and you had to put in a lot of effort to bend it to your will. Obama was a cunt and I didn’t agree with him when he was president but I would even take George W. Bush Jr. over that rotting fuck of a president the US got now.

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              But it is pretty clearly the line of thinking you’re trying to support if you have anything to say in the defense of the all time deportation champ.

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              The problem is systemic, it isn’t that we have one bad president. they were all bad.

              and Americans keep excusing it because “lesser evil”.

              it should not be controversial to say Obama belongs in jail next to Trump. although Trump deserves a much longer sentence.

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                If all I have are two shoes, one will make my feet hurt and the other will make them bleed, the choice is clear.

                Of course I should get better shoes, but maybe that’s not possible in the moment. Compromise is a laughable word in this situation and I agree that the US should be held accountable, but at the moment that’s not possible. It doesn’t matter if you think this is abhorrent or not. Change the system or accept that the lesser evil will be the better choice.

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                  The problem is that in your metaphor, no one even considers repairing or changing the shoes.

                  if anyone complains about the shoes that make you hurt they yell at you for promoting the shoes that make you bleed.

                  then next year your shoes have degraded and now you have to choose between shoes that make you bleed and shoes that breal your toes. same thing, no point in fixing them, because bleeding is better than broken toes…

                  And per your metaphor,

                  it’s better to go barefoot.

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      I get you think AI is bad, but is it worst than fascism?

      Magas propaganda output is sky high right now, being anti-ai when it comes to political memes calling out the fascists is literally doing the fascists a favor.

      I recommend you either photoshop an equivalent or pay someone to do so before complaining about a meme critical of trump. Having no content only helps them.

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        Haven’t seen any fascist AI slop propaganda on lemmy and I don’t want to see this slop either. Go post that shit on Facebook or twitter where there’s an actual audience for this.

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          I’m not on Facebook or Twitter specifically because I don’t want to see fascist content.

          Im not against AI but I do think it should stay out of certain comms, mainly the art driven ones. That being said, this is a meme community and any content critical of fascists is good content.

          Deal with it, you don’t make the rules. Build a seperate comm and ban all AI content if you wish, but the mindless kneejerk angryface reaction is tiresome. Removing antifascist content is enabling fascists.

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            This isn’t even antifascist, it’s just making fun of trump.

            You don’t make the rules on what I can and cannot comment, so deal with it.

            The mindless AI slop is tiresome and not needed on lemmy at all. And promoting AI slop is promoting billionaire products and capitalism and supporting fascism.

            Supporting AI is supporting job losses, thievery and environmental destruction.

            You say it should stay out of some comms, like art. Yet you support something that normally would have been made by an artist.

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              Trump is a fascist, so making fun of him and his hypocritical followers is antifascist.

              Nobody is losing their job over shit post content competition. AI has some drawbacks and also has some benefits.

              Thievery and environmental destruction is either overblown or scape goated on the tool while the actual culprits and parasites flutter about (lax environmental laws, gross energy production methods, copyright juggernauts, etc).

              All you bring to the table is negativity and gatekeeping, can’t even write something worth reading other than “fuck slop shit”. Thanks for the contribution.