• stembolts
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    Nuclear is bad.

    Well there we have it boys, the authority has spoken.

    Please do not search the deaths per kWh energy produced for each form of energy, or the amount of radioactivity produced.

    Nuclear is bad tho, so the death-rate and lower efficiency of other forms of energy must be accepted. /s

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      9 months ago

      Obviously fossil fuels are worse asshole. It’s literally in the comment when I mentioned Germany.

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          9 months ago

          That’s not the point. Only states can deploy nuclear energy. A city or province can’t do it. Only fossil fuels or renewables can guarantee local energy sovereignty. And since fossil fuels are bad, that leaves only renewables.

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            Only states can deploy nuclear energy.

            So what? Your point is an extremely narrow view. You should have been more clear in your initial comment. It’s not renewables OR nuclear only. Investment can be made in both.

            Some other snippets from a couple of your other comments:

            Nuclear is bad.

            For my own country,

            A city or province can’t do it. Only fossil fuels or renewables can guarantee local energy sovereignty.

            So let me get this straight. You ignorantly declare “Nuclear is bad” in response to an article about the United States expanding its nuclear production capacity. In another comment further down, a user suggested you explain more of your reasoning. There you mention “For your own country”, which I can only conclude is not the US, and you appear confused/upset as to why others are arguing with you?

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              9 months ago

              Pro-nuke energy is getting more and more indefensible after each disaster. May I remind you that literally nobody knows how to deal with long term storage of nuclear waste. No, dumping them in bunkers is not a long-term solution and never was sustainable.

              New developments in nuclear technology like with small modular reactors would produce more nuclear waste than conventional reactors. Not to mention that there isn’t enough uranium in the entire Earth for the whole world to shift to nuclear. It’s dangerous, expensive, and its waste is also dangerous and expensive.

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                Soley relying on renewables to get us off fossil fuels is taking, and will continue to take far too long. I’m sure you’re aware based on how much climate scientists have been sounding the alarm (even more so recently).

                It’s dangerous, expensive, and its waste is also dangerous and expensive. That fear only works in the favor of the fossil fuels industry. They love pushing this notion. https://texmex.mit.edu/pub/emanuel/PAPERS/Nuclear_Fear_2021.pdf

                For example, the leaks at the Hanford site are from military weapons research and production, not from the power plant.

                https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-21-73.pdf

                But things like this get conflated with power production.

                nobody knows how to deal with long term storage of nuclear waste Another ignorant statement. You keep using absolutes.

                Not to mention that there isn’t enough uranium in the entire Earth for the whole world to shift to nuclear. Again, stating things as factually inaccurate absolutes. It’s more than capable of supplementing base loads while renewables continue to scale. This has never been an “only nuclear” vs “only renewables” argument.

                Breeder reactors would massively reduce waste.

                https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/fast-reactors-provide-sustainable-nuclear-power-thousands-years

                https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-01986-w

                There’s way more going on that you’re obviously completely unaware of and are sticking to your preexisting conclusions no matter what is presented to you.

                I used to hold very similar opinions in my 20s. It’s amazing what education can do. I do hope your views soften a bit in the near future as we’re gonna need everything we’ve got to get off of fossil fuels.

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                  9 months ago

                  My opposition to nuclear isn’t merely because it is dirty, deadly, and costly but also because it relies on a specific technology of power to implement, a specific technology of power that has always been highly authoritarian. As part of the green movement of my country, we also push for denuclearization precisely because the 300mW nuclear power plant was built without democratic oversight. (Imagine risking non-zero chance of meltdown for a measly 300 mW!) Democratic movements are more likely to oppose nuclear energy, so it’s no wonder countries who are poor in democracy like China, USA, Russia, and France build and maintain nuclear power plants despite the public opposition.

                  Not only that, but nuclear power fuels the valorization process under the capitalist mode of production. Even if the whole world shifts to nuclear energy, the same technology of power that constructed the nuclear power plants would also go about oppressing people.

                  Nuclear energy can only operate under a specifically authoritarian technology of power. A free society—whether that be anarchist, communist, or radically democratic—simply cannot use the violence needed to construct a nuclear power plant.

                  But you probably don’t care about that. For you, this technology of power is probably a desideratum as long as you get your damn iPhones and airconditioning.