• @Tja
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    -101 month ago

    You understand that getting a list of sources and checking them is easier than finding them on your own, right?

    Of course it’s even easier not checking them at all and submitting garbage, but one should have learned in 3rd grade not to submit copy-pastes from Wikipedia or any website.

    This one is on human stupidity, not artifical intelligence.

      • @Tja
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        11 month ago

        Most people, exactly. Not for someone who already knows how to do it, like a professional lawyer. Or their assistant.

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            11 month ago

            Hence “or their assistant”.

              • @Tja
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                11 month ago

                In a law firm anyone not a lawyer is an assistant. Everyone is a professional, from the partners to the window cleaners.

    • @[email protected]
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      191 month ago

      so your process of getting legal advice is:

      1. ask chatgpt, which will output convincing blob of text, with references and sources that might or might be not real, relevant, or make sense, some of which you won’t be able to judge
      2. then, ask a real lawyer about this, which means that they have to make sense of the situation on their own but also dig through machine generated drivel, which means that they need more time for that, and this means extra cost/wasted effort

      how does that simplify anything

      • @[email protected]
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        181 month ago

        Look it’s a really cheap and fast way of going from potential lawsuit to actual damages! That’s progress, that is!

        [ed note: since I can’t markup-joke it in a way that survives lemmy: to be read in pratchett voice)

      • @Tja
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        11 month ago

        Do you enjoy arguing against arguments that nobody made?

        • @[email protected]
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          11 month ago

          Not the worst? 48th percentile is basically “average lawyer”. I don’t need a Supreme Court lawyer to argue my parking ticket.

          In a worst case scenario if my local lawyer can use AI to generate a letter and just quickly go through it to make sure it didn’t hallucinate

          • @Tja
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            11 month ago

            Exactly. Now compare it to what you wrote.

    • @[email protected]
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      181 month ago

      You understand that getting a list of sources and checking them is easier than finding them on your own, right?

      that’s one weirdass assumption. when you know what are you looking for, the opposite is true. few months back i’ve authored a review chapter in my (very narrow) field, and while “getting a list of sources” part took maybe a day or two with a few scopus searches, combing through them, finding out what’s relevant and making a coherent story out of all of this was harder and took more time. if you don’t know where even to start, maybe you should ask a professional? especially when alternative is just going in raw into the court of law, defending whatever is at stake with a few paragraphs of possibly nonsensical spicy autocomplete output

      • @Tja
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        11 month ago

        So you are saying that you spent one day or two? And AI could have done it in 3 seconds? So using AI you could have saved one day or two and… That is bad? Somehow? Because it didn’t do all the work for you or…?

        • @[email protected]
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          11 month ago

          i’m not convinced that spicy autocomplete would generate passable crude list of articles to consider in a way that would save me any time. already when going through scopus output i’ve made a fair selection (rejecting maybe 80%) of articles, then i had at least to skim them to tell whether it’s what i’m looking for, then i’ve narrowed them all down from few hundred to 80ish. then in some cases i went through literature in these articles to check if i wasn’t missing something. then i got to arrange them in some order and make a story out of all of that. all in all, these next steps took few weeks, so one day is positively swift. spicy autocomplete is utterly useless if it outputs few k of references, or throws out actually important work, or makes shit up and spits out nonexistent DOIs, because all of that makes next steps longer, or threatens to make the passable crude references list incomplete in important ways. i’ll pass

          • @Tja
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            11 month ago

            You’re not convinced? I could whip up a script to do it in half a day, and I’m really not that good of a dev anymore.

            Skimming to see if that’s what you’re looking for is another task where Ai is great at.

            • @[email protected]
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              11 month ago

              we disagree on what my job as an author is

              anyway, if you haven’t noticed, you’re already banned on awful.systems and i’m also done with you

              • @Tja
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                11 month ago

                Well, I have no idea what your job is, I just used the description you provided.

                Also, no idea what awful.systems is.