I don’t like Biden either, but anyone with half a brain knows there are two choices in the 2020 election. If we had a sane voting system, voting third party might be worth it, but as it stands, no one but you knows your favorite candidate exists and unless you want to become their campaign manager that will still be true in November. Even if you did, and even if you convinced two thirds of the people who would otherwise have voted for Biden to vote for your chosen candidate instead, Trump would still win because half the country voted for him and your guy only got a third. If you vote third party you might as well stay home.
Not voting isn’t going to stop the genocide in Gaza. The US will continue to funnel them arms no matter which candidate wins this November. Trump practically campaigns on how much he hates the Jews and he’s publicly told Israel to “finish up their war”. He’ll also make life a living hell for anyone who isn’t a straight cisgender male back here at home.
A vote for a candidate is not an endorsement of them or their policies, it’s a statement that you like their policies more than the other guy’s, and “sticking it to liberals” and “refusing to support genocide” (that’s not what voting for Biden is doing, by the way – a vote for either candidate is a vote for genocide and a vote for neither is an endorsement of both) is not more important than keeping the furthest right politician America has ever seen out of office.
How incredibly privileged do you have to be to see an entire national election as what will happen in the Middle East and ignore Trump’s campaign promises to wipe transgender Americans off the map, and further, to not realize that the same thing will happen in the Middle East regardless of which candidate wins?
I hate Biden as much as every other leftist here. But I’ll still vote for him because Trump is worse. If there’s a single bone in your body that cares about the lives of your trans friends you will too.
Anyone who doesn’t vote immediately loses the right to complain for the next 4 years.
Don’t like it? Should’ve done your duty and put in a vote.
Fuck you, fence sitters
Are the fence sitters in the room with us now?
yes. yes they are.
Ok I’ll be voting 3rd party.
Ok, I’ll blame you as well if Trump wins
I’ll blame Biden for refusing to make material compromises with leftists and progressives in order to get the votes he needs.
I’ll blame you when the nazis legislate me and my brethren out of existence. You could have helped to stop this, but instead you decided to sit by and throw a tantrum like a fucking child.
You could help stop this by fighting Biden instead of fighting me.
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If you actually care about trump, actually fear what he will do, maybe you should do everything you can to push for policy that will get the fence sitters to show the fuck up, rather than insulting them.
Voting does not wash your hands of responsibility for actively pushing away the people you need voting with you.
I cant control policy. Not alone. But right now, we have this election. And it is one of two options
The idiots that are choosing to abstain or waste a vote on third party are responsible for Trumps victory if it happens. Yes, even moreso than the republicans. Because they could have defended against it but instead chose not to.
Fuck fence sitters. Fuck abstainers, FUCK THIRD PARTY VOTERS
You all deserve whatever hell comes for you.
You can yell at them all you like, but do you think that will change their minds? Do you think that does any good?
Maybe go yell at the party for dropping the ball so hard that those people feel this is their only recourse.
If trump wins, it will be the fault of the party in charge of beating him, not the fault of the people they failed to convince.
I’ve seen several in this thread who didn’t read the OP, didn’t engage with its arguments, just stomped their feet and said “but Biden didn’t give us exactly what we want so we’re not gonna”.
How can you reason with people who don’t feel like reading your argument?
hear hear. i’m so sick of trying to explain how western democracy works to toddlers. fuck it. FAFO you little idiots. i’m already packed up and heading for my bunker. ya’ll can sort this whole, stupid, goddamn mess out yourselves.
4 years? You will not be so lucky if the choice is fascism.