This essay says that inheritance is harmful and if possible you should “ban inheritance completely”. You see these arguments a lot, as well as things like “prefer composition to inheritance”. A lot of these arguments argue that in practice inheritance has problems. But they don’t preclude inheritance working in another context, maybe with a better language syntax. And it doesn’t explain why inheritance became so popular in the first place. I want to explore what’s fundamentally challenging about inheritance and why we all use it anyway.

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    An enum is a sum type because the number of inhabitants of the enum is the sum of the inhabitants of its parts.

    A product type’s number of inhabitants is the product of its parts’ inhabitants. So a struct would fit that definition, or a pair, or a tuple.

    Looking at the pic on your Cartesian product link:
    if A is an enum {x,y,z} and B is an enum {1,2,3}, then a struct AxB has 9 possible inhabitants.

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      OK, I think I’m getting it.

      A product is a set that this is the result of an ordered cartesian products.

      struct Car {
        make: String,
        model: String,
        seats: u8,
      } 
      

      Car = String X String x u8.


      An enum is a series of "or"s.

      enum Animal {
        Dog,
        Cat,
        Giraffe,
        Chimpanzee,
      }
      

      can also be thought of as Animal = Dog | Cat | Giraffe | Chimpanzee. Where Dog is a type that only has single value in its set aka Animal = {1} | {2} | {3} | {4}, but it could also be strings, or other objects. Rust however allows more complex objects:

      enum ComplexEnum {
          Nothing,
          Something(u32),
          LotsOfThings {
              usual_struct_stuff: bool,
              blah: String,
          }
      }
      

      In this case is Something(u32) the equivalent of any “tagged” u32, meaning in memory it’s something like a Tag + 32 bits where Tag is a constant string of bits, maybe itself a u32? Wouldn’t that make it a product type?
      But then LotsOfThings is itself a product type LotsOfThings = bool x String.

      So to put it all together ComplexEnum = Nothing | TaggedU32 | (bool x String)? Is that correct?

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        So to put it all together ComplexEnum = Nothing | TaggedU32 | (bool x String)? Is that correct?

        Pretty much, yeah. But just be aware the tags are effectively unique constants, so each has only one value. For consistency I would write it as:

        ComplexEnum = Nothing | Something(u32) | LotsOfThings(bool x String)

        In this notation,Something(u32) could also be written as 1 x u32 because tags are constants.

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          OK, so finally I get it. It’s pity none of the blogs I’ve read or wikipedia articles in existence spell it out this way. Instead it’s a bunch of math mumbo jumbo.

          Thanks for helping me reach understanding 🙏 And thanks to @[email protected] too.

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