• BlanketsWithSmallpox@lemmy.world
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      I really do hate that sans serif completely fucks I l | o O 0 among others.

      I should have those things on top and bottom l should have a curl. But no…

      Fwiw Verdana is the currently the recommended best ADA font.

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        Helvetica (and it’s clones), not all sans serifs.

        DIN has nice little feet on the l, as do:

        • Cabin
        • Cantarell
        • Comfortaa
        • Iwona
        • Kp-Sans
        • PT-Sans
        • MS Trebuchet

        Thank you for listening to my Typeface Talk.

    • goldteeth@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Fʀᴀɴᴋʟʏ, I’ᴍ ɴᴏᴛ ᴇᴠᴇɴ ᴄᴏɴᴠɪɴᴄᴇᴅ ᴡᴇ ɴᴇᴇᴅ ʟᴏᴡᴇʀᴄᴀsᴇ ʟᴇᴛᴛᴇʀs ɪɴ ᴛʜᴇ ғɪʀsᴛ ᴘʟᴀᴄᴇ. Sᴇᴇᴍs ᴛᴏ ᴍᴇ ᴛʜᴀᴛ’s ᴊᴜsᴛ ᴀsᴋɪɴɢ ғᴏʀ ᴛʀᴏᴜʙʟᴇ.

      • rockerface 🇺🇦@lemm.ee
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        Minuscule letters were invented to write on paper and similar materials, because curved strokes had lower probability of tearing the material (as opposed to majuscule letters’ angular features, adapted to carving in stone or similar materials). Now that we’re not restricted by materials, might as well only use one case

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          lower probability of tearing the material

          Is that well documented? I thought it was just because it makes writing more fluid, and people tend to evolve towards fluid movements when they repeat the same ones all the time as it requires less energy. Ex: high-level musicians or sport practicionners.

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          I’ve heard that that’s the reason alphabets from languages in the South East Asia (like Thai or Khmer) is all about circles as to not tear the writing material back in the day - leaves.

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            I did a deep dive on this recently (my day job is in architecture, and in the US we infamously MAKE ALL NOTES ON DRAWINGS IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE THAT’S THE WAY WE’VE DONE IT SINCE WE HAND LETTERED IN BLOCK PRINT SO THAT DIFFERENT DRAFTERS’ SHEETS ALL LOOKED CONSISTENT) and it turns out that’s 100% just an acclimation effect – the old conventional wisdom of skilled readers recognizing lower-case word shapes doesn’t hold water. If tomorrow we deleted lower-case letters from every Latin font on earth, given time we’d be able to read all-caps text just as fast as we currently read sentence case.

            Which was disappointing for me to find out, since I REALLY HATE SHOUTING AT CONTRACTORS THROUGH THE PAGE ALL THE TIME and wish I could make a convincing case for sentence case, but oh well.

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              That’s good to know. And in the premise of this thread it’s relevant. However, since we’re used to sentence case now, it still makes sense to keep it that way unless there’s a compelling reason to switch.

              On the other hand, street signs in Sweden, where I come from, are uppercase. I was completely used to that despite reading mostly sentence case in any other situation. However, since I moved to Denmark, where street signs are sentence case, I now feel like it takes slightly longer to parse signs when I go to Sweden. I guess if I’m correct, that’s a case for quick acclimatation, as this happened over only a few years.

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        Come to think of it, is there actually much of any point to capital vs lowercase letters? You know what the first word of a sentence is anyway because of the period before, and names can be identified by context. Why do we even have capitalization in the first place?

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          As I mentioned in another comment, the original reason we have majuscule and minuscule letters is the difference in materials they were written on. Having them persist in the typesetting is in fact more of a historical artifact

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          We need capitals, as otherwise shouting online would have to move to bold

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              Sure but that all takes extra keystrokes. Caps lock is cruise control for shouting

              Also the *shouts at you* tag was classic in chat things, but places like this need escapes to make them look right

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        Hmm. Still harder to read and comes across as yelling, even when the capital letters are itty-bitty…

      • greysemanticist@lemmy.one
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        𐑯𐑴𐑐. 𐑿 𐑒𐑨𐑯 𐑛𐑵 𐑢𐑦𐑞𐑬𐑑 𐑤𐑴𐑼𐑒𐑱𐑕 𐑓 𐑖𐑫𐑼.

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    It should be illegal to have a font where Il| are not all easily distinguishable.

    lI|

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      Seems to be official. He hasn’t set up the domain but a bunch of prior posts and interactions make it seem real enough

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    You are telling me that one of the most prolific and influential artist of our time, 5 time Grammy Award winning musician Weird Al Yankovic, would run his own social media account on a niche platform to crack jokes and shitpost on the Internet, as if celebrities are just regular people at the end of the day?

    I don’t know, maybe this is one of those “novelty account” I’ve heard so much about here.

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    I ran into this exact scenario with an acquaintance on Facebook back when I engaged in such silly endeavors.

    Her name was Al and I couldn’t figure out for the life of me if it was Al or AI. I think I finally did ask, but damn I could NOT figure it out on my own. I suppose there must’ve been some way to copy paste it into word and configure to all caps, but the thought never occurred to me.

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      On PC, you can open the browser console and type in

      ("your string").toUpperCase()
      

      it’s usually on F12.

      >> "Al".toUpperCase()
      <- "AL" 
      
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        Simply pasting the string would give you the answer as the console uses a programming font

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          Fair, but I’m trying to trick them into learning js here :P

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              Man, I wish you could just use TS without some kind of preprocessor.

              But I also wish JS had less footguns like “oh, this function returns an array-like object that has half of array methods… But not the one you want right now”.

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              Well, ignoring the mire of ancient bad idea compatibility, it’s nice to just have a REPL wherever you have a browser.

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      Pasting into notepad is good enough, where I and l actually look different.

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      I always copy just the I, l, or rarely | and search for it with any search engine. It usually clears it up

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      and I couldn’t figure out for the life of me if it was Al or AI.

      The uppercase ‘i’ and the lowercase ‘L’ each have to enter the Thunderdome, and have just one emerge alive.