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    They also suspended all our accounts for 7 days.

    As the original creator and designer of the logo and banner, I also filed a DMCA against the further use of the r/TIHI logo on reddit.

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      “As the original creator and designer of the logo and banner, I also filed a DMCA against the further use of the r/TIHI logo on reddit.”

      Thanks, I Love It.

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          Under GDPR you have the right to your content, including data download and revocation. If you are banned from or restricted access to a website it doesn’t strip you of that right. However the complain should have probably been through GDPR and not DMCA.

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          This doesn’t hold any grounds in the EU as copyrights can’t be waived, and unless you got paid for it, you can withdraw consent at any time.

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            You don’t waive your copyright. You grant a license to reddit to use your content.

            Read the link, it’s all there:

            You retain any ownership rights you have in Your Content, but you grant Reddit the following license to use that Content:

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              This doesn’t apply unless you got compensated for your work. Reddit can add anything they like in their agreements, but that won’t hold in court.

              The artist can withdraw consent at any time.

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                You are confused. What you are describing applies to transferring copyright, not for granting a license while retaining the copyright.

                If things worked the way you described, free software, for example licensed through the GPL, couldn’t exist because then the authors could always take away the users’ rights by retroactively revoking their license. Fortunately, it doesn’t work that way.

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                  There are cases where artists withdrew consent and their work had to be taken down, and to my knowledge all contracts can be amended or cancelled, especially if they’re exploitative like reddits. You have a right to compensation if they profit off of your creative work, be it artwork, music, or writing.

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          Under GDPR you have the right to your content, including data download and revocation. If you are banned from or restricted access to a website it doesn’t strip you of that right. However the complain should have probably been through GDPR and not DMCA.

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          The DMCA is used “successfully” with even less grounds on YouTube every day. But I suppose the difference lies in not being a mega corporation.

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        Yes, we are already talking about that in the mod team. Happy to find a new home in kbin, we were all pretty much done by this point

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            Hi, another of the mods who got nuked.

            TIHI had a place saved here yesterday (because I didn’t trust Spez) and is going by the name TIHI! (Marvel at my creativity.)

            I’m waiting on the kbin developer to tell me WHY I can’t add Pfhali, Davis, Blank, Sezar and Funkadelic_Toaster, but once he does the whole team will be back and we will be making the sub just like before.

            Before the NSFW I mean.

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              On this note I want to say a big thank you to all our mod team, they did an excellent job all these years!
              I’ll be thankful for everything they have done.

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              Did you already send Ernest a message? I’ve noticed he’s really good at responding to messages he’s just really busy at the moment for obvious reasons haha. Also weird that you can’t add others to be mods on the magazine I haven’t seen others have any issues with that yet, wonder if it’s a bug on that one magazine for some reason

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                You can do like in reddit, expect instead of r/tihi you go m/tihi (since they’re magazines here, if it was on lemmy the url would’ve been c/tihi since they’re called communities).
                TLDR; go to kbin.social/m/tihi and hit subscribe on the sidebar.

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                You are on lemmy so you have to search for [email protected] (note the exclamation mark) to subscribe. Or if someone else on your instance already follows just go to lemmy.nz/c/[email protected]
                Edit: Federation between kbin and lemmy is still a bit unstable so you might need to wait a few hours for it to show up

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                  Thanks, I think this might be why I can’t find it. Will have another look in the morning

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                  From what I can tell, this is all kbin. The user is @kbin and this is a kbin magazine.

                  I feel like you’re on Lemmy and didn’t realize this is all kbin lol.

                  Unless I’m wrong and missing something, let me know!

                  Edit: nevermind, I just understood what you meant with your message. You can disregard mine lol.

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              I wasn’t subbed before on reddit, subbing now on kbin cause honestly guys, kudos on you for going out with a fight

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              Before the NSFW I mean.

              Thanks for clarifying, wouldn’t want to stumble upon someone’s arsehole again.

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      As the original creator and designer of the logo and banner, I also filed a DMCA against the further use of the r/TIHI logo on reddit.

      Well done.

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          I want to try something… Less involved in getting me on more lists.

          Honestly, people posting unrelated trash to subreddits with new moderators would be good. A dozen new moderators against thousands of non-bots just posting shit to reddit would be fun to try to moderate.

          Not even rule breaking stuff so you can contribute more than once. Like submitting wikihow articles for laying down floor tiles in TIHI. and upvoting other posts that don’t belong.

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            Nah, that shit just got me banned from specific reddits. You have to make a joke about eating one of their idols.

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              r/conservative mods are unique in that they retaliate by claiming it’s “report abuse.”

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      All mods on r/TIHI have been removed

      They also suspended all our accounts for 7 days.

      Well at least they are focused on the topic of your ex-sub.

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    It’s easy for them to attack the remaining subreddits when half of reddit, bent the knee at the slightest threat of having mod powers removed. Imagine how hard it would have been to do this if a majority of subreddits had stuck together.

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      Yes there’s an element of people not wanting to lose their power. But for every dickhead powermod there are dozens of small subreddits with a handful of people working hard to establish and maintain a community, largely altruistically and thanklessly.

      Modding, when it’s done well by dedicated people with a passion for their subject, can be incredibly powerful. There are some communities (eg legaladvice, askhistorians) that are unique and just couldn’t exist without those people dedicating untold hours to tending to them to prevent them from descending into chaos. Not to mention the custom tools almost all of them rely on.

      Have a read of Legaladviceuk announcement.

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        Yeah the issue with my sub is we’ve worked really hard to create the community we have. A lot of our users won’t leave. I’ve decided to use an automod sticky comment on every post letting everyone know where the rest of our official pages are. I have seen very little migration unfortunately.

        We decided as a mod team to keep our sub open. We’re all migrating off Reddit but we’re keeping our accounts for our one singular sub.

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          Most people don’t pay attention to things around them and don’t tend to care unless it directly impacts them.

          As long as you and other mods are carrying on in your roles, these people have no motivation to move.

          If the subbreddits stop being moderated it will generally degrade the experience, people will become impacted and then be forced to take notice.

          This is the gamble, someone might step up, they might decide leaving reddit is too high a price or you might cause people to migrate.

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      More than half the subs are modded by the same handful of power mods. No way they would give that up, they’re probably government run accounts anyway.

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        Well the governments better start creating instances and communities in the fediverse to monitor us then

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      That was some weak ass protest anyway. Let’s protest for just 2 days! No wonder Steve Huffman just gloated about it all over and even called the mods “landed gentry”

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        It wasn’t just 2 days though? 2 days blackout was the first part. I mean, we’re literally in a thread about a sub being punished for continuing their protest and they’re not the only sub.

        IMO it was always the right move to start with a limited protest. Giving users a chance to vote on next steps easily lets them counter reddit’s claims that people wanted the protest to end.

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          Most subs only protested during those two days. If all 8k subreddits had committed to a indefinite blackout, there would little reddit admins could do.

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    Reddit: “we will make up whatever rules we want, whenever we want, so that we can keep funding the payments on our BMWs”

    Normally, companies try and implement changes in their product in a diplomatic way, but I guess Reddit never got that memo.

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        They didn’t care/enforce it during the whole anime_titties/worldpolitics shenanigans, so either new or enforced when they feel like it. Centralised control sure is great.

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      spez and his jackbooted thugs are doing everything they can to burn reddit to the ground before July 1.

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      Jannies have never been good at relating to people, and reddit admins are like the jannies’ janny. Ban-happiness is inevitable.

      Forums are an interesting model for real life human social structures. If you operate your social structural group in such a way that the only way of meting out punishment is exclusion, eventually you can create an outgroup that becomes a threatening competitor.

      When your containment board is another website, you lose.

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    I like how you’re in trouble for allowing NSFW posts in a sfw community, oh but also you’re not allowed to mark things NSFW.

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      As one of the former mods, I am REALLY hoping someone turns it into a hate sub for Steven Kings acclaimed book and the not so acclaimed films.

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    Stop giving them content for free, they are milking you like cows. That’s why they are restoring your deleted content, because they are making cash out of your messages. Leave reddit behind and enter the fediverse.

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    A user on tildes describes how to go scorched earth for mods:

    • Turn off all spam filtering
    • Disable minimum karma requirements
    • Allow all posts, disable all rules
    • Unban all banned users
    • Purge all allowed submitters
    • Turn off AutoModerator, Scrub all configs
    • Delete all CSS and uploaded images/maps
    • Blank all sidebars, Delete all flairs
    • Allow NSFW content, Enable sub’s content on /all
    • Set the sub’s color scheme on mobile to something vomit-inducing
    • Blank all of the text options such as the sub’s topic listing
    • Grab a copy of anything in the wikis worth saving
    • Disable and permanently remove all third party mod tools and bots
    • Invite all users to the moderation team with full comment/submission privs
    • GDPR request for their own account data and then
    • Use it to delete their accounts and all of their content

    The options in bold, they have no defense for. That’s where the pressure points lie. The rest they can cope with, but not those options, not if lots of subs and users go that route.

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      • Unban all banned users
      • Invite all users to the moderation team with full comment/submission privs

      Do both of these together. Make every banned account into a mod!

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      Might want to avoid turning the sub NSFW, reddit admins claimed that as the criteria they are watching for to remove mods. They say they are taking action to prevent porn being spammed.

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        Which is funny, because the NSFW rules state that it’s not only porn, but profanity as well:

        NSFW (Not Safe For Work) content
        Content that contains nudity, pornography, or profanity, which a reasonable viewer may not want to be seen accessing in a public or formal setting such as in a workplace should be tagged as NSFW. This tag can be applied to individual pieces of content or to entire communities.

        Literally according to Reddits own content policy rules, any sub that allows swearing should mark itself NSFW - which basically means all of them because I’ve yet to find a sub where swearing wasn’t allowed.

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        I mean most of these actions would probably end with the mod getting removed, but yeah the current target is NSFW, as that directly affects reddit’s ability to serve ads.

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      Who else clicked how.to thinking it was another crazy new instance?