• jet@hackertalks.com
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    8 months ago

    And the 4 police officers on the scene who lied about the incident will be dismissed and charged with lying to the police? Noo? Noo?

    The fact the driver was charged means the police are lying systematically

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      ACAB but I wouldn’t put too much weight in the other officers intentionally lying. The incident happened so fast I’d assume 3 of the 4 didnt even catch it from the right angle and are just going off of what Dumbo says happened.

      Cancan Dan should go to prison for the same sentence as the crime he falsely accused the driver of.

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        Isn’t that a lie, if they claimed they witnessed it, just to back up what another guy said? By corroborating a lie, they contributed to false charges which could have sent someone to jail, ruined his life.

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          I think human memory and recollection is too inconsistent to apply that label fairly.

          If the cops had been around the corner when it happened and then claimed they saw it then you are right, they should face equal consequences for lying.

          But if they were near enough (and the video shows some of them? Than a combination of the sounds and movement and immediate aftermath can and does totally shift your perception of reality.

          Quick story: I was at work and I heard someone say something angry behind me. I turned around and “Bob” suddenly shoved “Alex”. Alex shoved back and they started screaming. I got in between and broke it up, facing Bob and basically keeping him from continuing after Alex. The bosses showed up and Bob started going off screaming about how his was gonna kick Alex’s ass and let’s go outside and blah bla blah he shoved me!

          I barked at him “You shoved Alex first you need to calm down!”

          And he stopped dead and looked at me. “FUCK YOU YOU LIAR.” And a rant about how I was best friends with Alex (I wasn’t, but sure did like him more than Bob) and I would like to get him fired ect ect.

          Now Bob was (probably is) an asshole. He ended up getting fired for berating a coworker and then coming to blows with a supervisor who told him to knock it off.

          But after I dismissed his accusations and moved on with my day, I started to think about what happened.

          I didn’t see anything before I turned around. But I did hear a yell, like a yelp… Like someone being hit…

          So I was 100% convinced of what happened, until I gave it some deep thought much later. If Alex had have stepped up and said “yeah! That’s what happened!” I don’t think I would have ever second guessed it, I would have put my career and reputation on the line…

          Anyways, they may be fully lying and colluding, but there is a non-zeeo chance they “remembered” it like the victim claims.

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      8 months ago

      Okay people, I gotta just keep saying this until it sticks.

      Multiple Os in a word sound like a long U, not a long O. This means unless you’re heading into another consonant, you’re not saying “Go” any more you’re saying “goo”.

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        8 months ago

        What’s your alternative to convey the meaning that everyone understood already?

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      Yes. This is like opening a random door and discovering an axe murder in progress. It makes you wonder what’s going on behind all the doors that didn’t get opened.

      One of the worst states a society can be in is one where it seems normal on the surface, but there’s massive hidden injustice happening under the surface. With something like the Battle of Britain, they truly were all in it together. But with the way our policing system works, people are getting horribly treated and their stories just aren’t known.

      A society based on human sacrifice is invalid. If there’s a monster eating people, we need to all be aware of it. Currently the monster is eating people and getting away with it, because we have a cultural assumption that anyone talking about the monster is to be avoided and shunned.

      It’s horror.

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      In fairness, the mass surveillance is just more evenly distributed when civilian dashcams are proliferated.

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        I’m a lot more ok with many people having non internet connected dashcams than one corporation having continuous access to a giant network of cameras

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          Surveillance apologists like to make the argument that “in public you have no expectation of privacy.” But what they don’t seem to understand is that having centralized networks of cameras (and especially ones hooked up to things like facial recognition databases) creates a whole new third level that goes beyond merely “in public” and instead becomes a panopticon.

          “In public” a person might remember seeing you at a certain time and location, but that doesn’t mean they can trace back your whole location history along with that of everyone who was ever near you at some point along it and feed it into a computer looking for suspicious patterns. When somebody tries to follow you closely enough to do that, we call it “stalking” and it’s a crime.

          But somehow once thing “X” becomes “X, but with a computer” lawmakers think it’s magic or some shit and previously-criminal stuff suddenly becomes A-OK! So now everybody is being criminally stalked by Ring (i.e. Amazon), Nest (i.e. Google), etc., and too many people are too computer-illiterate to even begin to grasp what a massive problem that is.

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            The reason it doesn’t seem like a problem isn’t just ignorance, but also form factor. If someone were to start putting stickers that look like staring eyes on ring cameras, it might drive the point home more viscerally.

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        Still not ok, when there is no downside for lying on a police report. Not everyone will be lucky enough to get dashcam footage contradicting four police offices conspiring to lie

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    From the preview tab, looks like it might be the cop who kicked a moving car and broke his leg? I won’t watch the ad YT is shoving at me and don’t care enough to download the video using a workaround. Either way, fuck cops.

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    Wait, wait, wait. When the video starts showing the constable, he is already holding his leg out in front of him, as if to force the driver to stop. No kicking motion can be seen in the video. So it’s legal to just hit someone who is holding his leg out in front of your car (however stupid that may be), injure him seriously and then just drive away?!

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        Ok but don’t you at least have to stop and check on the injured person? I mean even if it’s an accident, you’re obliged to stop and help, aren’t you? Is that just a Europe thing? I’m not American, but it would seem like a very basic rule to agree on.

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          No most of us sane drivers do. This guy was %100 in the wrong and breaking the law and is a cock wagon for doing so…but the cop is also a peace of shit for trying to ruin this persons life for an injury he caused himself.

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          Maybe, but we don’t even know whether he knew the guy injured himself. Sure he was guilty of being impatient and ignoring the person directing traffic so I’m sure it’s consistent to keep going, but why would you even check on someone who kicks your car and falls down. Heck, it’s behind you in your blind spot, it would be all too easy to not even see

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      Then the driver should have been charged with those offences. Also I have no idea how YOU know he was breaking any traffic laws from that video. The officer onsite indicates the lights are not to be trusted, and “speeding”, I’d love to see how you went about determining that from this video…

      The cop played a stupid game and won a stupid prize. In a just world once he heals up he would go to jail for the same crime/time as he falsely accused the driver of. Oh well.

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      The good old but he did that so he must be held responsible for this argument. I hope that one day you’ll be caught in a similar situation but without the cam footage to save you.