• Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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      I knew a handful of Jewish students who did Birthright when they were in college. There was always two reactions when they returned “Wow that was awesome!” Or “Wow, that was some bizarre shit”. Seems like nearly half the people would come back very radicalized. Literally had a suite mate who went there who previously had no opinion of Palestinians that went to “all Palestinians should be removed

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      “Deeply racist views” are you saying that Jews are racist? I don’t think I’ve heard that…

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        What an inane question. Of course they aren’t saying all Jews are racist. They’re saying that the people in charge of Israel are deeply racist. They also happen to be Jewish, but that isn’t really a factor.

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    I think we all knew this was going to happen… Hamas attacked and killed innocent Jewish people…Israel is going to make a statement, that if you ever do that again, we’ll go in and wipe you out…including Palestines who are caught in the middle…

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      some of the people werent even jewish, its kind of racist to suggest everyone killed was jewish just because its Israel.

      I’m sure all the children Netanyahu has slaughtered will learn the lesson that if you attack the state of Israel, it will use that as an excuse to commit genocide.

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        Oh geez…what ISN’T considered racist nowadays…Israel is doing what they think will prohibit another random attack…the Palestinian people are not all innocent. They continually support and vote for Hamas leaders. The majority of their people want Jews dead. It’s the same crap with other middle east countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran…sure, there’s some good people, but the overwhelming majority support their strict government and the people that make the laws…it’s not as easy as we all think for Israel just to target military members of Hamas when all the people there support them, protect them, and harbor them…

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      You made your account a day ago and starts making comments like this. An ignorant comment that refuses to acknowledge 75 years of horrible history.

      Can’t help but think you are either a troll or a random Israeli supporter. Well, I suppose, I’ll just block you immediately.

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          Not emotional, just exhausted of trolls and Israel supporters that cannot back anything of their claims up.

          Suppose, I’ll block you too. You got nothing good to write, comment or an argument.

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          Ah yes as if the European jews have been there for 2000 years. Cannanites are natives to the land and it was the tribes of israel that came from Egypt to their land. Modern day Palestinians are a mixture between cannanites, Arabs, jews and some other groups.

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            Archaeological evidence doesn’t support any of the early events of the Bible. The evidence we have found of the time indicates that the Israelites were Canaanites, they were never in Egypt, and the battle of Jericho never happened, amoung other things that they made up around the time of the bronze age collapse.

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            2000 years ago what’s now Ashkenazis still lived in Israel so… kind of self-defeating point there. You’d have to make sure to go a little less further back.

            Also the came from Egypt stuff, if it ever happened (at least in the sense of a great migration), is much further back than 2000 years. Also Jews were still polytheist and lots of random odds and ends.

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      Yeah, they should really stop killing their own people. Over 30,000 Palestinians, many of them children, dead at the hands of Hamas!

      Good thing Israel’s there to stop this horrible genocide and restore order.

      /s

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          Honestly, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if, in the inevitable Israel Nuremberg Trials, it comes out that the Israeli government intentionally instigated or even carried out the October 7 attack in order to generate sympathy and as a pretext for its genocide.

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          Well he probably is making the biggest advertising for them in their history. No matter how this war ends, there will be thousands of people with a grudge against Israel.

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        Hiding amongst civilians is a dirty thing after you start a war you can’t win, I know

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          “Mr. President, the terrorists have taken hostages. What should we do?” “Bomb the building.” -A psychopath

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            I’m not in charge of Israeli military policy, and im not here to justify their actions. But maybe Hamas should have considered the extent of retaliation when they started a war with them by murdering 1200 innocents.

            That was my whole point. By starting a war with Israel, they clearly had very little to zero consideration for the Palestinian people.

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              Hamas are not murdering innocents anymore. Israel is. Continually. Unyielding. With glee.

              But it doesn’t matter what Hamas is doing, did, or will do. It’s all political pretense anyway. If it wasn’t that it would be something else. Israel wanted to cleanse the area finally and take over, and this seemed like a good excuse as any to rile up the zombie masses and rally them around the genocide campfire. You’re falling for it. You’re part of the problem.

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              You are literally justifying their actions. Justifying the murder of well over 30 thousand.

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                No, my argument is that if Hamas actually cared about “their people”, they wouldn’t have started a war against a much stronger enemy who has proven to have very little care for causing civilian loss.

                I’m not justifying Israel’s actions

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                  You are putting the responsibility for those murders entirely on Hamas rather than the government currently perpetrating them, thus justifying that government’s actions. You could have just as easily made your opening comment, “Man, if only Israel cared about international law.” Please stop insulting my intelligence.

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                And many of the civilians were killed by the IDF, not Hamas. We don’t have an exact figure because Israel refuses any investigation into the matter.

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              They should live in the special IDF cities since IDF and other Israeli citizens never live anymore close to each other. /s

              So, about those IDF who did a lot more than kidnapped people, where should they live? Or is there worse repercussions for natives versus the invaders that kill them nonstop for decades?

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        Man you’re completely missing my point. Maybe I just made the point poorly.

        If I’m a lot weaker than my bully, and my bully absolutely hates my guts, I’m not going to go and pick a fight with them, because it will give them all the justification they need to beat my brains in.

        I understand that Israelis hate Palestinians. That’s exactly why Hamas going and starting this war was the absolute worst thing they could’ve possibly done, if they truly cared about the Palestinian people. It gave Israel all the justification they needed to kill tens of thousands. That’s it. Not saying the justification is right, but it opened the door