Just in case there was any doubt about how Jack Dorsey really feels about Bluesky, the former Twitter CEO has offered new details on why he left the board and deleted his account.

Does not make me sad he’s gone, tbh.

  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.worldEnglish
    703·
    8 months ago

    One of the things he takes offence about is that Bluesy has moderation.

    He should know that moderation is needed to be useable by nearly anyone.

    • Skepticpunk@lemmy.worldEnglish
      20·
      8 months ago

      I hope he realizes that having moderation isn’t a choice social media websites get to make anymore. That’s Apple and Google’s choice now. Why? Because in order to have literally any userbase at all nowadays, you have to have an app. Websites barely get used in comparison to phone apps. And if you don’t bother moderating your website and let people send things like racial slurs and child porn unabated, you get kicked off the app stores by Apple and Google. Not to mention that payment companies don’t like those things either.

      • Omniraptor@lemm.eeEnglish
        6·
        7 months ago

        That situation (apple and Google as sole gatekeepers) is fucked up and should change with the new eu open markets legislation.

      • solsangraal@lemmy.zipEnglish
        1·
        8 months ago

        still new here-- how do you interact with kbin pages while being logged into a different instance? i’m on lemmy.zip and go subscribe and fetch intance but it says page not found

        • [email protected]@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          2·
          8 months ago

          It works the same a a remote instance lemmy page.
          Most likely .zip banned that community, which I’m also considering since it’s mostly spam.
          Actually, kbin itself is mostly spam lately

          • Blaze@lemmy.zipEnglish
            4·
            7 months ago

            Actually, kbin itself is mostly spam lately

            Yes. People over there should probably move to Mbin instances

          • solsangraal@lemmy.zipEnglish
            2·
            7 months ago

            thanks for the information! the fusillade of BUY MY XANAX ads reminded me of the old AIM days

    • RobotToaster@mander.xyzEnglish
      5·
      8 months ago

      I don’t know if he’s been taken out of context, but bluesky is supposed to have opt-out moderation, and the ability to opt-in to multiple moderation servers (a little like adlists in ublock et al), which doesn’t seem like a terrible idea, but it sounds like they’ve gone further and completely removed stuff, because in reality it isn’t decentralised at all.

        • Omniraptor@lemm.eeEnglish
          4·
          7 months ago

          you can’t opt out of bsky’s own moderation if you want to use bluesky pbllc’s infrastructure

        • grrgyle@slrpnk.netEnglish
          3·
          7 months ago

          As a member of some unmod groups back in the early internet I can’t but concur

          It can be safely done with very small, or very cool, groups of folks, but not on the open internet.

  • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
    483·
    8 months ago

    FTA:

    In the interview, Dorsey claimed that Bluesky was “literally repeating all the mistakes” he made while running Twitter. The entire conversation is long and a bit rambly, but Dorsey’s complaints seem to boil down to two issues:

    1. He never intended Bluesky to be an independent company with its own board and stock and other vestiges of a corporate entity (Bluesky spun out of Twitter as a public benefit corporation in 2022.) Instead, his plan was for Twitter to be the first client to take advantage of the open source protocol. Bluesky created.
    2. The fact that Blueksy has some form of content moderation and has occasionally banned users for things like using racial slurs in their usernames.

    “People started seeing Bluesky as something to run to, away from Twitter,” Dorsey said. “It’s the thing that’s not Twitter, and therefore it’s great. And Bluesky saw this exodus of people from Twitter show up, and it was a very, very common crowd. … But little by little, they started asking Jay and the team for moderation tools, and to kick people off. And unfortunately they followed through with it. That was the second moment I thought, uh, nope. This is literally repeating all the mistakes we made as a company.”

    • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
      33·
      8 months ago

      “People started seeing Bluesky as something to run to, away from Twitter,” Dorsey said

      This quote in context with all the rest of his statement makes it clear he didn’t understand what people were running from. Unless he intended it to be like Truth Social and thought folks were running towards that.