cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/3376057

I held off on Windows 10 for as long as I could until my job required it. Now this nonsense. I hope this isn’t the start of them joining on the web DRM bandwagon.

  • @[email protected]
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    12911 months ago

    Fuck Adobe, not supporting Linux, and now not even supporting Firefox, the once most used browser? Whoever pirates their crappy software deserves a statue.

        • ඞmir
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          1711 months ago

          Something with trying to claim they own PDFs and Photoshop I guess

          • wvstolzing
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            1511 months ago

            The pdf standard is open, though criminally bloated. Their pdf software (‘pro’ as well as the freemium ‘reader’ which looks like adware nowadays) is used only because it’s the most lenient with respect to files barely complying with the ‘standard’ – which includes things like application forms from government agencies.

            … that is, if they can be said to ‘own’ the pdf format, it’s only because they smeared it all over with their shit. A bit like how hippos mark their territory, I guess.

            • wanderingmagus
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              511 months ago

              Is there a FOSS/free PDF program that will let me fill in and digitally sign/encrypt a pdf?

              • @[email protected]
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                511 months ago

                Yup, I know Okular (KDE’s PDF tool) at least works. I don’t know if it works on Windows or macOS, but I’m sure there are other tools that do.

                • wanderingmagus
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                  411 months ago

                  Thanks! I’ll look it up and try it out. Getting real tired of having to use shady web apps to get around something I have to do regularly as part of my job but for some unfathomable reason isn’t a default app on every computer where I work.

    • I Cast Fist
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      1911 months ago

      I’d like my statue doing one of Luigi’s taunt poses, please

  • @[email protected]
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    12411 months ago

    “Whoa there!”

    Go fuck yourself with that fellow kids corporate speak. That pisses me off so much, way more than it probably should.

  • @[email protected]
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    8611 months ago

    Any software company that uses monthly subscriptions as their business model can fuck right off. Let us own what we buy.

    • @[email protected]
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      1411 months ago

      Unfortunately they’re still a default app in the business world. Basically everyone at least uses Reader if only because it’s what people expect when they open a PDF.

      • I Cast Fist
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        1211 months ago

        Thankfully, there’s a huge variety of pdf readers (not so much for editors, unfortunately)

        My favorite for Windows is Sumatra

  • @[email protected]
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    6811 months ago

    Are we surprised that Adobe is doing this? Adobe is exactly who I would’ve suspected adapting this bullshit immediately.

  • @[email protected]
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    6511 months ago

    This is the main issue with that web DRM “security” shit that Google is trying to push. They have such a great market share now that big websites can now afford to put a check “only for Chrome” losing a very small percentage of users

    • @[email protected]
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      1211 months ago

      Not that the DRM thing isn’t going to fuel this behaviour but this is already possible with the current browser specs. The DRM shit will just make it worse.

    • CuriousGoo
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      111 months ago

      This very small percentage of users anyway would be privy to alternative to Adobe’s stack ?

      Concern will perhaps be mainly for getting new users on FF/other browsers from Chromium.

    • @[email protected]
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      811 months ago

      Yup. Often these User agent switchers just do the trick. But some companies design their stuff to break on FF. (I’m looking at you Microsoft)

    • Sparrow
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      611 months ago

      This thing is a lifesaver. I use it all the time.

    • Rikudou_Sage
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      511 months ago

      I haven’t checked, but I’d guess it’s because of some non-standard feature that only Chromium supports, not because of user-agent.

      • 6xpipe_
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        1311 months ago

        In my experience, companies typically use this message because they only officially support/test on the listed browsers. They block out any other browser to cut down on support emails. If you spoof your user agent so the site thinks you’re using a supported browser, somewhere between 95%-100% of the functionality will usually work just fine.

        • deejay4am
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          611 months ago

          Companies should test to open web standards and tell users to file a ticket with their browser devs if something breaks because of nonstandard behavior.

        • @[email protected]
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          611 months ago

          That’s what our devops team does. All of my company’s internal web apps are tested against chrome only and that’s all that’s supported. It will usually work with Firefox so it’s not a big deal unless you have an issue and they find out you’re not using Chrome.

      • @[email protected]
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        311 months ago

        That’s the thing - i haven’t checked either. Guess what’s the next step? User agent switcher

  • @[email protected]
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    4811 months ago

    Not supporting Firefox is WAY down the list of crimes Adobe has committed against their customers. I’m not all surprised by this post

    • Matengor
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      11 months ago

      I tried Gimp for a longer time, too, but I could not get used to the complicated layer management, missing layer effects & layer adjustment features. I will try out Affinity.

      • Sparrow
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        111 months ago

        It took me a ridiculously long time to switch to GIMP and If I wasn’t all in for FOSS I wouldn’t have done it. I really can’t imagine any of the designers I know using it full time.

    • @[email protected]
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      611 months ago

      Huge learning curve and a lot of missing features.

      I have found most of the “high learning curve” is based more on work flow. Muscle memory can screw with you when trying to learn a new piece of software. I used to use Dreamweaver back in the day when I was on winblows, made the switch to Linux started using bluefish and had to change my work flow which was hard to learn because I was indoctrinated in the way dreamweaver worked. Actually had to relearn some aspects of web design since I had gotten used to the convenience of dreamweavers macros that were pre-installed

    • swellow the sun
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      It’s not an one-time purchase. I bought Affinity Photo for this purpose and then they released Affinity 2, and it wasn’t a free upgrade for Affinity 1 owners.

      I’m not buying Affinity 2 and buying every new release just like Parallels do. I’d rather stick with the old version or take a shot on Gimp instead.

        • @fuzzzerd
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          Yes you can. Paying for a major upgraded version is the alternative to an evergreen subscription, but allows you to milk more usage out of your purchase if you don’t need the latest and greatest.

          Expecting a one time purchase to entitle you to updates forever is asinine.

  • @[email protected]
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    4111 months ago

    There isn’t anything that Adobe charges money for that you can’t find an open source alternative.

    • Herr Woland
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      1911 months ago

      No real replacement for After Effects unless if you want to juggle between 5 programs and then lose clients because they can’t open your project files

        • Herr Woland
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          1111 months ago

          You can’t animate text on a video clip without spending a lot of time, something which is 2 clicks on after effects

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            Fair point, Blender isn’t for the weak of heart but it’s free and getting better and better. It does particles and other things too. After Effects has a steep learning curve too though, you just know it.

            • Herr Woland
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              511 months ago

              I know, I love blender and work with it when I can, but I do motion design professionally and it’s painful how there’s no alternative to after effects

        • @[email protected]
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          211 months ago

          We have to stop confusing compositing and motion design, Blender is great for compositing, absolutely not 2D motion design. The only software that could efficiently replace After Effects on some aspects would be Cavalry, but it’s still on early development.

    • @[email protected]
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      411 months ago

      Im REALLY trying to make myself learn Affinity Photo, but I just keep falling back to PhotoPea which is like an in browser Photoshop clone

          • @[email protected]
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            211 months ago

            Wym not photo editing? You can do everything aswell in Krita. Changing hues, retouching, selection, layers, saturation, tone balance. All there.
            And you can most definitely use it for pixel art. Even if you don’t want to use Krita there exist paint.net, aseprite, piskel or pixelorama. No need for hundreds of dollars for PS.

        • @[email protected]
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          211 months ago

          Krita is awesome for tablet painting but it’s not that easy to use for photoshop type stuff, imo.

      • MusketeerX
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        211 months ago

        Got stuck in hospital for a few weeks recently and used the opportunity to finally learn Affinity.

        I’m now really liking it. Takes a few tries to get into it though.

        I particularly like it on the iPad with the Apple pencil. A bit less so on my windows laptop.

        • @[email protected]
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          411 months ago

          Honestly ever si ce I discovered Krita I never went back to GIMP. Maybe gimp is more customizable at the base level but fuck me if Krita doesn’t make transitioning out of Photoshop a breeze. Changing from PS to Krita is like switching from a metal baseball bat to a wooden one. Switching from PS to Gimp is like switching out your metal baseball bat for an unfelled pine tree.

      • @[email protected]
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        611 months ago

        Sorry, but fuck no. Not even close. I hate adobe, but photoshop is literally better than GIMP in every way. But like some said, there are better options than photoshop.

  • Ivan
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    4011 months ago

    I will recommend GIMP or Krita usage even more

  • @[email protected]
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    3411 months ago

    Are you kidding - they basically invented the problem. They were one of the first to move to the “rent your software” model way back when