• rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
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    6 months ago

    It wastes shadowbanned person’s time, so it’s not.

    Similar to vote obfuscation.

    Which sucks just as badly.

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      6 months ago

      Don’t post shit that gets you shadowbanned. Problem solved.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        6 months ago

        So just don’t commit thought crime against Big Brother and you’ll be good?

        When a platform gets to a certain size, we need to consider its effects on society as a whole. Hiding undesirable content and promoting desirable content can be a monopolistic practice for the org to get outsized impact on things it finds important. Whether that’s “good” or “bad” depends on how closely that org’s interests are aligned with the average person.

        I, for one, do not think Meta’s interests are aligned with my own, so I think it’s bad that they have so much sway that they can steer the public discourse through their ranking algorithm. Shadowbanning is just another way for the platform to get their desired message out.

        Instead of trying to restrict yourself to only posting what the platform wants you to post, you should be seeking alternatives that allow you to post what you think is valuable to post.

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        6 months ago

        That’s a good solution for you, but some of us don’t generally bend over to assholes.

        And that’s not serious. You’ll get shadowbanned for any kind of stuff somebody with that ability wants to shadowban you for. You won’t know the reason and what to avoid.

        I got shadowbanned on Reddit a few times for basically repeating the 1988 resolution of the European Parliament on Artsakh (the one in support of reunification with Armenia).

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          6 months ago

          Don’t hang out in spaces that don’t align with your beliefs.

          I was on reddit for 15 years and never caught a ban and I’m not exactly a demure person. If you go to an anti vax thread (this is an example since i know nothing of armenia) and post stuff about vaccination, even it’s 100% factual, it’s not surprising when you catch a ban.

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            6 months ago

            I usually go to places which (on surface) align with my beliefs in what the end goal should be, and generally on the means. I 'm willing to drop some of my beliefs on the means if that makes the goal closer. And no system of belief is perfect, so it seems sane to argue on details of achieving something.

            Which is when the reality hits that most people don’t care about end goals. They just want to join some crowd.

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            6 months ago

            I’ve been on reddit for 15 years and I’ve been banned from dozens of subs. I got banned from /r/libertarian for quoting Wikipedia page of Libetarianism. I got banned from /r/geopolitics for linking a report on the effects of 2019 sanctions on Venezuela. I got banned from /r/socialism for bringing up Henry Ford and his influence on the 40 hour work week. I got banned from /r/kratom for mentioning it’s an addictive substance that bindes to opioid receptors. Got banned from /r/the_donald back when it was a thing, don’t even remember why.

            If you’ve been talking regularly on reddit and you haven’t been banned from at least a handful of places, then in my opinion you haven’t actually been saying much.

            I believe we need to democratize the banning process and make it more transparent. Sort of like criminal justice system. Jury of your peers. Make a case in your defense and let everyone see it.

            The way it’s handled right now is authoritarian and allows any mod to arbritarily silence views they personally don’t like, even if the community at large would have no issue with.