• chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Remember, just because the money is spent, it doesn’t mean it is spent well. I’m sure a lot of the US dollars are fed into sports programs and other spending, and not directly towards efforts that would benefit the most students or workers.

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      6 months ago

      Yeah, also salaries are wildly different between these countries. This is a really not apples to apples

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      6 months ago

      I’d wager that most school districts in the US have significantly more money spent on transportation than in other countries as well

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      6 months ago

      For example, Austria is notorious for producing desastrous results in any metric (standardized tests, teen Analphabeten…) in relation to its spending on education.

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      The Hungarian numbers are inflated by religious schools, secular schools only would be in the very end, also we’re forcing very old and inefficient teaching methods on our teachers, so old people can jizz their pants seeing kids not having free time to play outside (which they also complain about of course), and we also have a massive corruption problem (renovations, etc., cost way more they should because we need to make the prime minister’s childhood friends billionaires).

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    I’d much rather look a simple sorted table or a bar chart.

    For me the country outlines don’t add anything of value and they aren’t too scale either with arbitrary rotations mixed in. Spending is on a strictly one dimensional scale yet the graphic implies some concentric (2-dimensional) pattern.

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      I agree. Standard bars are boring, and it’s not bad to liven them up, but there are a lot of different ideas layered one over another with a little connection to data representation or increasing readability (also heatmaps with strict color gradations, false grouping, distance from center breaks at the bottom level mixing different colors). But nailing visuals without trying things out is impossible. OP got feedback they can put to use in the future.

      Critically checking the graph after each step could’ve make it easier even for them. Had it become better in some way with X? If no, let’s scrap it and try something different.

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      6 months ago

      I think with the US, it comes down to that number being an average and how big the spread is between states. North East and West Pacific states spend WAY more than South Eastern, but it averages out to something seemingly reasonable.

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    6 months ago

    Oh good, another thing Americans spend more than almost anyone else on and get worse results.

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        USA would probably be better if it were like 4-10 different countries…well, some of it at least.

        New England Cascadia California Breadbasket States of America Gilead

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    The US spends more on public education than multiple states where it’s basically free for everyone. Now take a moment and appreciate how badly you are ripped off.

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    Finland is way lower than I expected and they apparently have the best primary and secondary education systems outside of the East Asian countries

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    Israel’s outline is sketchy to say the least…

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    Primary to tertiary? Does that mean it includes what college students through grad school spend themselves? Because that would shift perception of this a lot.

    Edit: The original data does include public funding and private funding:

    Every year, governments, private companies, students and their families make decisions about the financial resources invested in education.

    They do break it out, but I can’t tell if the graphic is using the total or just the public funding.

    So this graphic might just be: Americans spend a stupid amount on college.

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    Am surprised to see Australia rates highly. 40% of students don’t know it takes about a year for Earth to orbit the Sun.

    I would guess that half the population doesn’t understand compound interest.

    I would also guess only 5% could describe the scientific method, 1% could describe the use of normal distributions.

    I would guess that 20% of locally born Australians would not know how to use punctuation or grammar for clear expression.

    Is this a worldwide trend? The rise of flerfers suggests it is.

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    I’m from Hungary, can comfirm, it’s shit here it could be better.

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    Canadian average is about 1 or 2 thousand less than that from the last info I could find a few weeks ago

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    Yeah, data can be beautiful - but is ugly if presented misleadingly. Only very little can be concluded from this ‘graph’ (without sources btw), but it is presented as if the inner west are the great core of enlightenment, spiraling out to the ‘dumber’ nations. The level of knowledge excellence is obviously related to the amount of dollu spent - which is nonsense. My equally valid opinion is that Western liberal/Capitalist education is exceedingly inefficient, and only optimized for wage-slavery. Notice how all the super ‘edumecated’ citizens from the west have been so easily propagandized to think that Russia is the bad guy. …China is the bad guy …socialism is bad …communism evil …Capitalism GREAT! We are the best!! …and so on and so on with similar infantile propaganda from the Capitalist elite. The average intellects in these ‘educated’ western nations is Embarrassing, and misinformation from constant propaganda doesn’t help much i’m afraid…