• Gormadt
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    22014 days ago

    Re-Enabling the dislike button would help too

      • kellenoffdagrid❓️
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        3813 days ago

        Yeah but it’s not that accurate, and it leaves most normal mobile users out of the picture. I know YouTube knew exactly what they were doing when they removed dislikes, but it still seems absolutely insane to remove such a useful tool for sifting through the bullshit.

    • UFO
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      Nah. Low value signal. Easy to game.

    • @[email protected]
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      It was removed because Biden got too many downvotes. It’ll be back soon. It was stupid of them to take it away.

      • Gormadt
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        3313 days ago

        That’s not why it was removed

        It was removed not long after one of their Rewind vids was disliked to hell.

        And it ain’t coming back, at least they haven’t so much as hinted at it

        • @[email protected]
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          -4213 days ago

          Nah, that’s what they told you and you believed. Don’t be a fool for the media. It’s a bad look.

          • @Strykker
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            1913 days ago

            Continuing to speak is a bad look on you.

            You talk shit out of your ass.

            • @[email protected]
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              -2912 days ago

              I talk truth in my own thoghts. You speak lies in talking points you were told to say. And you do. Be smarter. Don’t follow the herd.

              • @[email protected]
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                912 days ago

                I am glad to see that in his personal bankruptcy, Alex Jones has decided to spend the free time here on Lemmy…

                Welcome to have you, Ale, I can’t wait to hear more about the chicken fried steak that God talked to you through.

                • @[email protected]
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                  -210 days ago

                  I don’t think it. It’s true. The reason is because they were pushing his agenda. They’ve already admitted that. They removed it because he was getting too many. Just because you disagree doesn’t make me wrong because that is straight truth.

          • @[email protected]
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            1212 days ago

            Whoa this guy’s badass.

            He knows what’s really going on, and it just happens to always be opposite of whatever “the media” says.

              • @[email protected]
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                Ooooh boy it must feel super special to have this secret knowledge that nobody else but you can seem to keep up with. Almost as if it’s bullshit.

                Tell me, based my one reply to you, who am I following? Is anyone who disagrees with you automatically a “follower”? That would seem a little too convenient, no?

                The fact is you’re a basic-ass, run of the mill contrarian. Most of us have learned how to deal with people like you in our real lives, but it’s always a little bit sad to see someone who clearly doesn’t have anyone in their life to tell them to shut the fuck up every now and then.

                So here, I’ll do everyone a service: Shut the fuck up.

  • @[email protected]
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    11214 days ago

    So now we have to read a community note to know a video is garbage instead of just seeing a massive dislike bar and clicking off?

      • @[email protected]
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        1613 days ago

        The dislike bar was real, I’ll tell ya, I’ve lived nigh on eighty years and me own two eyes seent the dislike bar clear as day! Ye better believe, sonny, it’s the truth!

      • @[email protected]
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        Yeah, the dislike bar used to be a thing. You could see how many dislikes there were compared to likes, all represented on a line below the two buttons. It was sort of like this image, except imagine the “yes” and “no” as a single line (but retaining their separate colors).

      • @PoolloverNathan
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        5014 days ago

        Yes, as well as automatically hiding new comments.

        • @[email protected]
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          2514 days ago

          which is unfortunate, i think YT does it to save paid labor on moderating comments, but this allows video posters to upload misleading info and delete correcting replies, which also pairs well with hidden thumbs down

          • @[email protected]
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            1814 days ago

            It also allows uploaders to stop hate filled posting, like incels trashing the comments on anything positive about female characters in media.

            • @[email protected]
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              714 days ago

              Honestly, I’d rather the channel have the first say here. It would be even better if some independent mod team could override channel owners though if there are enough reports.

              • @[email protected]
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                714 days ago

                Enough reports is how brigades are effective.

                There isn’t a great solution that solves all the possibilities, it is a difficult problem. An independent mod team sounds great until you get into the details of how they are formed and the fact that they are people too who might miss nuance or hold their own shitty opinions.

                • @[email protected]
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                  214 days ago

                  Sure, but a manual review is way better than any form of automated system. To combat brigading, the mod team could issue temporary suspensions if that’s deemed to be the case, and full bans if the behavior is repeated.

                  It would be quite expensive for YouTube to do that, so it’s not happening. Best we’re getting is some automated nonsense, probably based on AI.

      • Neato
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        1214 days ago

        And Youtube will 100% allow creators to hide notes, as well. Corporations will not allow themselves to be criticized on their own pages.

      • @[email protected]
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        113 days ago

        I must be watching different videos than the people complaining about YouTube comments. The ones I see are virtually all positive.

        • @[email protected]
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          813 days ago

          Don’t just look at the comments. Look at the replies to the top comments. 8 out of 10 times they turn super toxic super quickly in my experience.

  • sunzu
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    another chance to provide free labour to train their AI!

      • sunzu
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        Yeah clearly training data does get much review for these peasant facing products. I am assuming real tool will take legions of pros to properly tune up.

        The issue not LLM per we, the issue is that none of these clown companies appear to do Amy data quality control. They just rush whatever janky thing they got to drive headlines.

    • ALiteralShovel
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      3013 days ago

      Damn I miss those. Nowadays it’s really hard to find a video that’s in another language and has subtitles. The only subtitles you will find are the automatically-generated ones, which suck

      • @[email protected]
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        413 days ago

        They’re at least understandable (usually), but they’re like 5-10 seconds behind the video (sometimes longer), and they can be difficult to interpret at times.

        • @[email protected]
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          812 days ago

          They’re only about 90% accurate and usually that’s better than nothing, but sometimes the little bit that’s wrong is very confusing

  • @[email protected]
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    This sounds like a great spot for scammers to flood for maximum visabilty. It’ll be too much effort to moderate, so creators will just disable them (if they can) or this will be shut down in about (checks YouTube’s history of dealling with scammers) 3.5 years.

  • @[email protected]
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    3013 days ago

    I mean, if this is basically Twitter’s Community Notes feature, but for YouTube, I’m all for it. Bit of a balancing act, but it’s the last thing that hasn’t been completely wrecked now that Twitter became Xitter.

  • SouthFresh
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    2614 days ago

    I give this about two weeks before they realize that it’s as effective at helping their advertising as having dislike buttons are.

    I am not condoning poisoning of this well of information, but I will laugh my ass off when it inevitably occurs.

    • @[email protected]
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      714 days ago

      I condone poisoning this feature with false info. maybe it will teach them that the dislikes should be public again. using an extension is cool and all, but so many people still don’t know about it.

    • @[email protected]
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      714 days ago

      It really is unfortunate as it COULD be a really good feature if it were being implemented by someone who wasn’t just trying to crowdsource AI training data that will go into commercial products without compensation to anyone. It could be a great tool for professionals and experts to expand on what creators say, a way to call out falsehoods and Hypocrites, and a way to find your people in a world that is growing ever bleaker. But no, it is just being done to force more ads down our throats and harvest more money from us.

    • @[email protected]
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      313 days ago

      And, once they discontinue it, I hope someone creates an add-on to bring it back like they did with dislikes.

      It’s a bit out-of-scope, but it’d be a great SponsorBlock feature!

    • @[email protected]
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      Advertisers working in your native language cannot hijack your attention when foreign language videos are running. Subtitling facilitates that, and encourages site activity that differs from consumption, such as broadening one’s horizons and being inquisitive about the real world.

  • @[email protected]
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    1513 days ago

    lol, considering the “quality” content in the comments section it’s just going to be a continuation of that dumpster fire.

    • @[email protected]
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      312 days ago

      I would never go as far as to say that they’re “quality,” but I do think YT comment sections aren’t the complete shitshow that they were a decade or so ago. It really does depend on the channel though too.

  • CALIGVLA
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    1214 days ago

    I miss when Youtube had community sourced subtitles and those little annotations on the video…