I saw an article about them attacking Lebanon now. So, where will it stop? Have the Israeli government ever spoken about this?

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    You’re talking out of your ass. Israel has no plans to take over Gaza. They already had it and even had settlements there going back all the way before Israel gained its independence. But they voluntarily existed in 2005 in hopes of fostering peace with the Gazans… Instead the first thing they did was elect Hamas and commit terrorist attacks.

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      So if you rewind another 50 years or so, you’ll understand the statement I made a little better.

      The israeli conquest of Palestinian land started quite a ways before 2005.

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        I literally don’t care, you made a false statement. Israel unilaterally left Gaza. They don’t have settlements there anymore and they don’t plan to. Making up stuff doesn’t make you sound smart.

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          You might want to care, since your false claims are entirely based on a woefully inaccurate and incomplete historical understanding of the conflict.

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            Nothing that I have said is false. In fact I can source every single one of my claims. I know a propaganda fueled drone such as yourself can’t do the same, which is why you came back with this drivel instead of providing substance

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              You claimed:

              “I literally don’t care”.

              Sure doesn’t seem to jive with your histrionics.

              Also, the history of Israel and Palestine is incredibly well documented. Going back 75 years.

              You could literally search on any engine and find it instantly. You don’t even need a particular source to figure out how old this conflict is.

              Which is probably where you should start.

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                If you actually took into account the context, it’s very obvious that I said I don’t care about your claim that conflict is old and goes back many years. Nobody is disputing that. My point is that you made specific claim, which is that Israel wants to annex the Palestinian territories entirely as their ultimate goal, however, that is blatantly false because Israel literally gave up their settlements in Gaza voluntarily in 2005 and unilaterally existed. If their ultimate goal is complete conquest, why would they have done such a move? This event contradicts your thesis and disproves your claim.

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                  Paraphrased: “After decades of colonization, why would Israel publicly state that they were ending all illegal ongoing colonization?”

                  1. Because Israel already took most of the land(see picture) and didn’t have to give any back.

                  2. Because there was a lot of complaints about them colonizing Palestine, especially as the internet became more popular and people became more aware of the illegal Israeli colonization of Palestinian land.

                  3. By publicly stating that Israel would no longer annex Palestinian land, they didn’t have to give up any of the land they already colonized over the past half century, civilians could continue to colonize Palestinian land because it wasn’t official government or military colonization, and people would be mollified.

                  And it worked.

                  You apparently aren’t aware that Israelis are still colonizing Palestine because 19 years ago they put out a press release that said “no backsies, but some of us will stop officially colonizing this country after 60 years”.

                  The civilians are still settling Palestinian land(they never stopped) that has been now evacuated because, you know, they’re killing all the Palestinians.

                  https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/3/8/israeli-settlement-expansion-in-palestinian-areas-amounts-to-war-crime-un

                  https://www.aljazeera.com/features/longform/2024/3/19/how-israeli-settlers-are-expanding-illegal-outposts-amid-gaza-war

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              Thanks, it’s fine.

              I have a lot of free time and it’s fun to respond to mindless bad faith with diametric sincerity.

              They always get boggled.