Frustrations are mounting across southeast Texas as residents enter a fourth day of crippling power outages and heat, a combination that has proven dangerous – and at times deadly – as some struggle to access food, gas and medical care.
More than 1.3 million homes and businesses across the region are still without power after Beryl slammed into the Gulf Coast as a Category 1 hurricane on Monday, leaving at least 11 people dead across Texas and Louisiana.
Many residents are sheltering with friends or family who still have power, but many can’t afford to leave their homes, Houston City Councilman Julian Ramirez told CNN. And while countless families have lost food in their warming fridges, many stores are still closed, leaving government offices, food banks, and other public services scrambling to distribute food to underserved areas, he said.
The cause of the problem is of course gay sex, trans people using bathrooms and a lack of guns and bibles.
As long as bitcoin farms have power, there is no problems
/s
Filthy sodomites asked for it! Also all the steamy hot gay sex is heating up the atmosphere. Steamy hot gay sex that I never fantasize about!
There is a guy, a politician, who said that gay sex releases too much greenhouse gas. Also blew cigar smoke into a plant terrarium calling it ‘necessary CO2 for the plant to live’.
We live in a simulation, and it’s breaking down.
Ann Coulter makes for quite the Prophet.
My family is currently blaming Obama. So, there’s that.
Ah yes, Obama did climate change. Makes perfect sense.
It’s a bigger economic problem than people are talking about. I have a manager who works from Houston. He can’t work right now. Several other coworkers as well.
At some point, employers will have to consider the liability of employing someone in Texas, simply because a power outage could seriously impact them.
So Texas and Florida are out?
Florida, all the craziness aside, is actually part of the national grid and, like the other commenter said, usually rebounds quickly.
Texas OTOH keeps insisting their independent unconnected grid is superior, even though the evidence is stacking quite tall against that claim. If it’s not a hurricane, it’s the heat. If it’s not the heat, it’s the cold. If it’s not the cold, it’s the wind.
It’s always SOMETHING with their grid, but I’m sure it has nothing to do with their insistence that their grid be independent. It’s all the WoKeNESs that’s the problem!!! /s
Although being disconnected from the national grid is a problem. This isn’t the problem this time.
This was poor preparation and response by the city and power company. We haven’t had proper tree trimming around power lines and there weren’t repair crews staged for this. Not to mention trees dying off from extreme heat/cold then being blown down.
This was poor preparation and response by the city and power company.
You don’t say? Maybe if there were some sort of rules to ensure proper procedures are in place AND being followed. Like regulations or something hmmm
I agree. I’d fucking love that.
A tree shouldn’t be taking the entire grid down…this sounds like regurgitated Facebook bs
“A tree” didn’t “take the entire grid down.” A hurricane and thousands of trees took thousands of power lines down, and there are many localized outages interspersed between areas that still have power. “The grid” is fine, individual neighborhoods’ connections to the grid are not.
The grid is only fine right now because of decreased load due to outages. When everyone has power again and the load increases they’ll have a different set of problems they’ll end up blaming on FEMA, green energy and hurricanes.
That makes no sense. The Texas grid hasn’t had any issues with balancing electricity supply and demand since the winter storm in '21 that took a bunch of generating facilities offline
People are downvoting every comment that recognizes this has nothing to do with ERCOT. They heard about ERCOT in 2021 and eagerly blame it for every power-related issue in Texas, apparently
Yup this is the city and Centerpoint that should be on the hook for this
At the same time, let’s recognize this was a hurricane, which would have similarly knocked out power in any metro area, and would’ve taken a few days to fix in any metro area. Centerpoint didn’t pre-stage outside assistance like they should have though, but to their very small credit, Beryl’s track changed dramatically from projections over the final 72 hours before landfall
Florida rebounds really quick after a hurricane. I do have coworkers in Florida, at most they are out for a day or two.
It’s been 4 so far for Houston. And I’m not talking a hurricane which won’t impact most of the state, I’m talking about any power outage across the state.
I meant Florida is out because most housing insurance companies are leaving the state because they’re losing too much money there.
This is an anecdote that doesn’t hold water if you look search for articles about outages in Florida after hurricanes
Yeah, red states are very poor, mostly due to their backwards economic policies. I know someone is going to being up that Texas is actually rich over all, but they still have far worse wealth disparities and widespread poverty than a comparable state like California. So they are indeed still a very poor state.
This poverty is a huge liability. It’s all fun and games complaining about how the gov wrecks everything until you need something like well regulated utilities.
Poverty is always a liability. In the healthcare system, poverty raises the costs for everyone else when they don’t get things treated or prevented.
What bothers me is that there is a whole bunch of financial types who seem to blissfully ignore liabilities. “Those are unrealized costs,” when it should be “those are ticking time bombs.” If you don’t mitigate liabilities like through well regulated utilities those ticking time bombs will always have bigger consequences when they ARE realized.
That’s a problem for the next guy once I get my paycheck and leave in 2 years. Repeat ad nauseum.
The company I work for has a production and shipping facility down near Houston that has been closed down since Monday due to the lack of power. It’s insane.
A lot of inertia at the scale of the bulk of the petrochemical industry.
I would not hold my breath. Businesses will simply throw technology at the problem until they can’t see it anymore. Was just in a meeting today where the boss was raving about satellite phones solving our connectivity issues.
Vote Republican again, I’m sure they’ll fix it!
This is Houston which consistently votes blue
The governor and both state legislative houses are blood red. Love how MAGA pins all the blame for their policies and any Dem that’s around no matter how lowly.
I wonder if they’re just pointing out that the victims here are already voting sanely, not trying to assign blame.
Repubs elsewhere in the state, as all Repubs do, treat disasters as something to ignore or cheer, depending on who the victims are. If they were capable of distinguishing between good and bad governance (or capable of empathy at all), they would not be Republicans in the first place.
Houston controls the statewide power grid?
It sure would be stupid if Texas wasn’t connected to the national grid because that would make solving this problem a lot slower and a lot more expensive.
Sure would be stupid…
Trust me, you don’t want connect your grid to our disease. The infection needs to be cut out first.
You guys do have the wind farms. Fat lot of good it’s done you, but…
Poor (not really, fuck him) T. Boone Pickens. He thought they would power all of Texas after he was gone.
Like I said, gotta cut out the infection
You’re admiring our shoes but the foot’s still gangrenous
Don’t, Texas is a mess
Did they not listen to the litter campaign?
Remember this at the next elections, when you will have that incredible urge to not vote or to vote right.
Republicans in Texas focus their voter suppression efforts on Houston since it is the biggest Democratic voting population in the State.
Don’t worry. They’ll vote for the same folks who allowed this unpreparedness to continue.
Wow we’ve done nothing and nothing changed
they most loyal and obedient slaves are the slaves who think they’re free
Crazy thought but makes sense. Just thinking of Smithers.
But if we tax rich people to pay for services that’s Communism! Also black people would benefit, is that what you want commie?!
Keep voting republican!
/s
Will they get angry enough to do something about the GOPers that are causing the problems? Probably not.
They’ve been brainwashed into thinking that the GOP is the only solution to their problems and the reason why they never solve the problems is that the enemy is both too strong and too weak.
See point 6: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism
But not so angry they are going to do something french about it.
IIRC revolts are statistically more likely during heat waves.
Bro if it’s triple digits and humid I’m staying my ass inside. Reschedule the revolt to a mild day in the 70s.
I see a lot of people here blaming the TX grid but not all of Texas is under ERCOT.
SE of Houston, power is supplied by Entergy Texas which also supplies power along most of the gulf coast.
Here is a statement from them, “As of 6:30 p.m. Friday, Entergy Texas crews have safely restored electrical power to approximately 199,100 of the 252,460 customers impacted by Hurricane Beryl. We expect all customers who can safely take power to be restored no later than Monday, July 15.”
These are not TX policy decisions causing these outages. It is simply economical decisions that are made throughout the national grid system to make it affordable to deliver the vast quantities of power that people need at a price they can afford. It’s simply a fact of life that when you have such a powerful storm passing through, any human built system is going to fall to the power of mother nature.
I was a electrical engineer back in college, so if anyone has any specific things they want to ask, I’ll try to respond.
I’m not an economist though so I can’t tell you why it’s more important for peoples heating and cooling bills to be closer to $100 a month instead of $300 and why the policy decisions are made to support that. And this is with modest electrical usage setting my AC to cool down to a conservative 78-80 degrees since I’m cheap and want to conserve energy.
As a Texan, the problem is we have 0 below ground lines, we don’t stage workers even when we know storms are coming, we don’t require structures to be built in resilient ways (including solar or wind facilities for new builds) and the end result is that our communities aren’t resilient.
Sure we pay less in taxes (note: if you’re wealthy), but you need a generator and an interlock kit to have the electric uptime other places have. You’re still paying a tax to live here, it’s just not going to the government to give you a nicer community, it’s going to businesses so their execs can get wealthier.
We don’t have 0 below lines. Look at downtown houston. They have below ground lines. Look at recent subdivisions in places like Fannett, TX, they are below ground there.
Are you talking about transmission lines? I’m not sure of any place that runs those below ground.
I think they were using hyperbole dude, zero meaning relatively few in relation to whats needed. Its basically the zame as saying fuck all.
I was indeed using hyperbole. Med center also has a lot of ground lines. But the vast majority is unmaintained, extremely aged above ground infrastructure. That might be okay if we didn’t live somewhere that gets hurricanes and other severe events, but we do.
I was a electrical engineer back in college, so if anyone has any specific things they want to ask, I’ll try to respond.
Yes, why are phasors so terrible?
They look like they work fine to me.
A lot of sarcasm here, but I fail to see how deregulation or Texas’s separate grid contributed to this problem. I see two main contributing factors:
The storm wasn’t projected to hit Houston this hard. The projected track had it making landfall way down the coast in Corpus Christi just 48 hours before, and the day before that it was projected to hit Brownsville, a solid 350 miles away. Houston was not projected to be the target until the last minute, so many people were caught unprepared, including Centerpoint Energy.
Houston’s tree canopy is massive. Sure, Houston has a ton of concrete and deforestation, but it remains on the edge of the Piney Woods, and especially in north and east Houston many areas are completely blanketed in hundred foot tall loblolly pines and sweetgums that are prone to breakage in hurricane force winds. Power lines were shredded, and many homes were damaged by falling trees
Except this happens every year, during storms, during heat waves, during cold snaps. If it were just a one-off event it might be able to be waved away, but a pattern of failure is emerging.
Whether the storm was projected to hit as hard or not doesn’t really matter, tropical storms and hurricanes are not some new event in that area of Texas, yet the state and local governments seem utterly unprepared. It was only a year or two ago that basically the exact same thing happened, and apparently nothing was done about it to shore up their services. It’s an inefficiency of the private sector, they’re not capable of providing vital services because their primary motivation is not reliability and efficiency, it’s profit and cost cutting.
You don’t see this happening in other states with the same frequency. I’ve never had the grid where I am fail, and we get both extreme heat and cold and occasional tropical storms.
Except this happens every year, during storms, during heat waves, during cold snaps
Does it? We had the snow storm in 2021 that hit the news, but after that, are you lumping every local outage in Texas you see in the news together and blaming the “Texas grid?” People did the same thing when we had a severe ice storm here in Austin in Feb 2023 that knocked out power for several days. Well Austin has a municipal utility because we have not deregulated here, so Austin Energy was responsible for that one, and the problem was ice and trees. People were all over reddit blaming the “Texas grid” at the time, when the issue was ice and trees in a localized area.
Let me be clear I in no way support deregulation. I grew up in Houston when Houston Lighting & Power was our utility, though, and we had outages back then too, because we experience severe weather really often in Houston, and there are a bunch of trees that knock down power lines.
Are you saying you’ve never lost power to your house? I’m curious where you live where there aren’t pretty widespread outages after a hurricane that brings you several hours of 80mph sustained winds. Anyway my entire point was this outage in Houston has nothing to do with the “Texas grid” or deregulation. You could certainly criticize Centerpoint for not being better prepared to repair the outages, but the outages were going to happen regardless
Ercot literally said a month ago that they were planning rolling blackouts in August. Texas can’t handle itself under projected circumstances, so of course they will be fucked every time a disaster hits.
ERCOT says that every summer, but also that article says there’s a “12% chance” of rolling blackouts, not that they’re planning them. Last summer was our hottest on record, as it was many places, and there were no rolling blackouts. This summer in Texas hasn’t been nearly as hot as it was last year.
Here are similar articles about pretty much everywhere else:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-midwest-danger-rotating-power-blackouts-this-summer-2022-06-03/
https://www.eenews.net/articles/grid-monitor-warns-of-blackout-risks-across-u-s/
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/15/us/storm-blackouts.html
Again, these outages are due to downed power lines, not ERCOT and not generating capacity. Does everyone here really not understand the difference lmao
Yes. We understand that the difference is the lack of redundancy in your grid due entirely to profiteering and cost cutting.
You’re literally the only person who has had anything productive to say here, so when you say “we,” I’m not sure who you’re referring to. Yes, better grid redundancy would mitigate outages. At the same time, I’d like to see any kind of evidence that Houston has poor grid redundancy compared to any other city of comparable density, or that “profiteering and cost cutting” have played a role.
My previous point stands that ERCOT and the Texas Interconnect being independent has absolutely nothing to do with this
Except that the only reason your grid is independent is so they can cut corners on quality and soak you for every penny they can. If they were connected to the rest of the country they’d have to conform to superior codes.
i hear you, fellow texan. no fan of ercot, but reading this thread has been infuriating.
for anyone else reading my comment - some years ago, i lived in oklahoma for a little while. years of drought, one year a lot rain. lots of trees with a lot dead branches weighted by new growth, then that winter an ice storm hit. trees bigger than my car came crashing down and it was all over the town i lived in. for three days in the silence, you could hear branches cracking and falling. two houses down a tree went right through their living room. one end of our street was impassable for several days until someone could cut one tree into small enough pieces to clear it.
needless to say, power was out. parts of town had power back within days, some parts of the state, if i remember correctly, didn’t have power for weeks.
grid stability or redundancy couldn’t have prevented that problem.
Appreciate you. Outages like this happen all over the country when there are severe weather events, especially hurricanes. Folks on here seem to have a poor grasp of electrical systems and why the power’s out in parts of Houston
How exactly do you “see” these factors, are you sure you’re not cognitive dissonancing? Storms change course all the time and those trees have been there for years. Being prepared for the occasional hurricane isn’t profitable.
You fail to see it because you are a MAGA toadie.
wow…
