• Cleverdawny@lemm.ee
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      It’s not just Muslims that are fundamentalist extremists. But of every major religion, Islam has the highest rate of that kind of extremism. There are plenty of Christian countries which are socially progressive and endorse modern sensibilities. No Muslim countries are.

      I have a dear friend of mine who is a religious minority in Egypt (she’s a Copt). The paranoia that she and her parents have when interacting with Muslims is saddening, because of how it’s been justified. Her church has lost several members to religious violence, and she’s lived through a suicide bombing which happened at that church and targeted Christians.

      I’m not saying there aren’t Christian extremists. There are. But the Muslim extremist problem is an order of magnitude larger within that faith.

      Judge individual Muslims for their own beliefs. But there is no Christian version of the Taliban state or ISIS. And Islam is to blame for the actions of its extremist adherents writ large. It desperately needs a religious reformation, but instead, the Saudis are still chopping the heads off of people who offend their religious police.

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          I’m not saying we should ignore anything. I’m saying we shouldn’t ignore the extremely high rate of extremism within Islam.

          But if you want to prove me wrong, point to a single Muslim country where apostasy and homosexuality are socially accepted

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              Lebanon isn’t a Muslim nation. It has a significant Muslim plurality. And homosexuality is de facto illegal there AND extremely socially unacceptable, with 85% of Lebanese people saying it should be “rejected by society.”

              Give me a Muslim nation where homosexuality and apostasy are both legal and socially acceptable.

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                  That’s what I thought.

                  There’s not a single fucking Muslim country where I wouldn’t face dramatic persecution as an apostate or my gay friends for loving who they do.

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                  No, dip shit. Lebanon is 48% Muslim. That’s a plurality. It’s 45% Christian, 5% Druze, and the rest minor groups.

                  A “Muslim country” is one which has a dominant majority Muslim population for the purposes of this conversation. That describes dozens of nations. Show me one of them where it’s legal and acceptable to be gay and an apostate.

                  PS even if I pretended Lebanon was a Muslim nation it still wouldn’t pass that test

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              Since you edited your post after I replied like a dirty little liar, here’s a second reply.

              Can I name a Christian majority country where being gay is generally acceptable, being an apostate is generally acceptable, and both are legal? Yeah. Canada, the US, Australia, Spain, the UK, France, Germany, etc, etc, etc.

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      They really don’t. Israel is a Jewish country and women are allowed to go to school or university.

      There’s countless Christian countries and that shit happens nowhere.

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          The statement was that this happens with all abrahamitic religions in power.

          You’re confusing a country where a majority of citizens are Christian with countries who are lead by Christian leaders…

          I’m not, it’s just the closest to the stated premise.

          I can’t think of a single equivalent than the Vatican, and if you’re acting like that’s a great government…

          Same. But then I doesn’t make sense to make that statement in the first place about the other religions.

          Because there’s zero evidence to back it up.