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    Human breast milk is the only naturally occurring food specifically designed for human consumption.

    I’m waiting for somebody brave enough to promote the all-breast milk diet.

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        Preorder the newest expansion today, World of Warcraft: The Breastmilk Within

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      Don’t ask me how I know this, but some parts of the bodybuilding community have been known to pay lactating women a surprisingly high amount for their breast milk.

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        Iirc it’s not even ideal for body building as human breast milk has higher natural sugars and less protein than other animal milks.

        Baby’s brains need those extra calories to develop as quickly as they do, hence the extra natural sugars.

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        There was just an advertisement for colostrum on one of the recent episodes of the Philip DeFranco show.

        If anyone doesn’t know colostrum is like “early milk,” the immediately precursor to breast milk in lactation.

        They’re trying to sterilize the concept here, but yeah breast milk is actually a thing in the bodybuilding and supplement community: ARMA is one of the biggest brands, I believe, if you want to look the stuff up yourself.

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          Haha, I said don’t ask!

          It came up during one of my childcare courses that I took before I became a dad. You can buy colostrum and breast milk on the dark web, and in some inner-city hospitals it’s not uncommon for some women to sell all their breast milk and to give their baby formula for some extra cash. We were told by the midwife that ran the course not to do this…and naturally it resulted in more questions than answers.

          Genuinely one of the only things I remember from that course.

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      There’s only the tiny issue that most humans are lactose intolerant. Don’t believe me, look it up

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        Man it was wild when my GI doc gave me the low-down on that. Like most everything in metabolic science its a “grey subject.”

        Mammals naturally lose the ability to produce lactase as they wean off mother’s milk. However, humans, particularly Europeans and some areas of Africa have consumed dairy for long enough that we do maintain limited lactase production if it is introduced shortly after weaning. There is evidence in some areas of western Europe specifically, where life long production of lactase does appear to have evolved.

        But for the majority of the world, yeah, they day we started weaning was the day we stopped being lactose tolerant.

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          Yep that’s similar to what I’ve heard about it. I’ve had so many people not believe me that most people globally are not lactose tolerant!

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        But we don’t start that way. If we kept drinking breast milk since infancy, we’d maintain our ability to digest it just fine. It’s a “use it or lose it” situation.

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        That’s cow’s milk.

        Edit: guess I’m incorrect, I posted a link below on where I got confused.

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      Well, down vote me if you want, but, IMO, human milk should be an industry. I can imagine women having the ability to stay at home with their infant or young child and pump milk, and be paid for it.

      At present, just about nothing humans produce naturally is something that a company will buy. Most countries don’t allow paying for bodily fluids, including but not limited to, blood, plasma, semen (for IVF, etc). Nor do they allow for payment for human organs.

      What’s left? Hair? I know nobody wants your toenail clippings. Certainly nobody is going to pay you for what comes out your backside.

      It’s just one of those markets that is completely untouched IMO.

      And yes the USA will let people buy organs/blood/plasma, etc, but it’s fairly uncommon in the rest of the world.

      In any case, I don’t think any country has any laws forbidding it, but nobody has done it, to my knowledge.

      It’s just interesting to me.

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      That’s actually a trend among the younger gen alpha folks. Pretty sure it will wear off quickly but gen beta might adopt it, we’ll see

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    This just made the best argument for how I’m going to plan my diet going forward. Nothing but fries and ice cream from now on. I’ll be a paragon of health.

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      Remember, if you can’t light your ice cream on fire without it melting then find yourself a different brand.

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      If we want to max processed make sure you’re going for ice creams that cannot legally call itself ice cream, “frozen desserts”.

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        I wouldn’t say frozen milk is particularly far into processed territory.

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      Supposedly Christian Bale consumed a diet of exclusively pizza and ice cream to get from a Machinist physique to a Batman one, so maybe you’re more right than you realized!

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      Your sodium, cholesterol, and blood sugar levels will earn gold, silver, and bronze medals for their Olympic-grade high jumps. And that’s how you know it’s healthy.

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    Imagine having unprocessed food. It’s like raw and uncooked and unseasoned and simply unprocessed. Sounds awful to be honest.

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      There is a lot of truth to this

      Processed food, is easier to digest, more nutritious, less likely to contain deadly bacteria/viruses, lasts longer.

      The real problem is our dumb bodies and brains have no sense of moderation and we consume too much.

      The only real problem that isn’t an adaptation issue is the preservatives, digestion is essentially a sped up form of decomposition if our food doesn’t rot it doesn’t digest.

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        Also, processed foods are usually made with lower quality ingredients in unbalanced ratios.

        Just look at how high quality medically prescribed balanced food can be and compare that against the average breakfast cereal or training supplement.

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        Yeah. Our bodies are doing the right thing after millions of years of evolution. When you find something high fat high carb and salty, go crazy before the bear kills you. It just doesn’t know that there’s infinitely more food and almost no chance of a bear attacking you. We developed food much faster than our brains could adapt.

        At the same time, we are not just our bodies but also our gut biome, and they particularly enjoy less processed foods, high in fiber, highly fermentable, and still intact even after crossing stomach.

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          It just doesn’t know that there’s infinitely more food and almost no chance of a bear attacking you.

          Did you just assume our bear threat level??? What if we live in Detroit??? I mean, I assume bears frequently roam Detroit’s streets with how run down it is…

          Or what about San Fransisco? I hear there’s TONS of bears there!

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          Likewise, if you try to lose weight, millions of years of conditioning kick in. Your body thinks its starving to death and acts accordingly.

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            You’re right. Though each time I try to go in calorie deficit I can see that first few days feel awful and then suddenly my body is able to be content with 500 calorie deficit easily for months until I indulge again for day 2-3 days. Almost as if it accepts the fate until more food is available.

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    There’s processed, and then there’s Processed. When I make bread, it’s a processed food, it’s not just whole wheats. Except for fruit, most of what I eat is processed, but not much Processed.

    French fries are so delicious though. Chips and chips are my junk food.

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        Requires? You can make French fries at home. Doesn’t make it organic, or healthy.

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          Oven fries we do make, unpeeled organic Russet potatoes in olive oil and salt. I’d file those under minimally processed. Not even as processed as the sourdough bread I make.

          But the delicious fries fro McDonald’s that are so far removed from being a potato seem more processed.

          Ultra -processed I thought was like a Twinkie or Pringles or a frozen packaged dinner. Those sort of foods I have maybe once a month if you count diet coke, but only ever that occasional diet coke and at Halloween my kids save me the mini Milky Way Midnight if they get any. So not none, but approaching none.

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          That would still be processed food. Ultra processed foods have additives like preservatives, coloring, and flavoring that you can’t typically buy off the shelf on their own. Frying is just another way to cook food, doesn’t make it organic or healthy.

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    Unprocessed food is, where your belly realizes where to stop. Processed food is, where your brain wants more.

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    I like to think of highly processed foods as “partially pre-digested”. It’s too easy for your body to absorb which is why it leaves you feeling dissatisfied and hungry shortly after, and it still makes you fat.

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    It helps to define what processed food is, specifically what constitutes “processed”

    From Wikipedia:

    Food processing is the transformation of agricultural products into food, or of one form of food into other forms.

    Food processing takes many forms, from grinding grain into raw flour, home cooking, and complex industrial methods used in the making of convenience foods.

    Tertiary food processing is the commercial production of what is commonly called processed food.[2] These are ready-to-eat or heat-and-serve foods, such as frozen meals and re-heated airline meals.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_processing

    TLDR; anything you do to a food item besides picking it up and eating it raw is considered “processing” if you want to be pedantic.

    Colloquially, “processed foods” as a marketting and culinary phrase typically means “Tertiary Food Processing” but thats too many words to say every time you want to discuss potato chips