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    That would be you and your nationalist wanna-be propagandist buddies on this community.

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        In the context of your post on a conservative community, yes.

        When the leader of the Republican party is a convicted felon and self-proclaimed nationalist, its not a far stretch to say that anyone who is supporting that, is also a nationalist.

        Nearly all the posts here are not so much pro-Republican as they are anti-Democrat. Hardly any of these posts are supporting an agenda to make the country better, it’s to stir hate and divisiveness.

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            Desperate for a mean response, hu? How you managed to pull that out of my comment is bizarre. It’s a generic response when someone has nothing else to say.

            I am saying that you are openly engaging in nationalist behavior. There are hardly any posts of yours that actually promote Republicans as a valid party with any agenda. Nearly every post is designed to cast Democrats in a bad light. That last bit is actually fine, if you also posted similar news about the GOP.

            What you are doing is just telling people what you hate and how you want other people to hate, about things you were told to hate. That isn’t patriotic and is the exact playbook of Nazi Germany. It doesn’t matter what your party does that makes the country better, it’s about blaming others for random shit to get them pissed off.

            Conservatism is dead. All that is left of them are blowhards, con artists and very gullible people. If you actually read Project 2025, you will see that it was a collaboration between quite a few conservative interest groups and not just one man or one group. It outlines the plans for a dictatorship in the United States. That is about as anti-Democacy as you can get, and those are your people.

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              Nationalism is believing in your country and doing what is best for your country. Is a very GOOD thing. You seem to think America shouldn’t be the focus of our leaders.

              You Godwin the conversation in 4 replies. Well done. The Democrats are much more like the Nazis than the Republican party.

              Conservatism isn’t dead. It is far from dead. If it was dead then why is Florida and Texas doing so well? Why are blue people moving to red states?

              Why would I read 2025? it has nothing to do with the election. I don’t get the fascination with the left trying to bring up irrelevant things to scare people.

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                Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.” - Charles de Gaulle

                Charles was a nationalist, so much so that Gaullism was actually a thing. However, it’s more important to use his definitions rather than his words, for or against, any specific action or justification. This article explains that very well: https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2018/11/43935/

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                  I think hate is only when it’s jingoism. Every country should do what’s best for their people. You should be proud to be French, British, American or whatever country you are from.

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                    This is what you are describing as good: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_conservatism

                    Here is a national conservative group that aligns with that: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Freedom_Party

                    By describing nationalism as a good thing, you are ignoring a massive amount of context. Jingoism only refers to hostile foreign policy and war mongering. As a veteran of the second Iraq and Afghanistan wars, I clearly saw the “jingoistic” nature of the Republican party as a whole. Hell, not only am a US veteran, I have nice firearms collection and enough ammunition components to survive two or three apocalypses. That doesn’t mean I have to tolerate the nationalist behavior of people that think they are “conservative”.

                    The abhorrent anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric from the GOP should be just one single example of how Christian Nationalism is not “good for all people”. The repealing of Roe vs. Wade was not “good for all people”. Politicians publicly embracing Q-Anon conspiracy theories is not “good for all people”. Supporting and justifying the actions of the Proud Boys is not “good for all people”. Creating plans like “Project 2025” to convert the US into a dictatorship is not “good for all people”.

                    Are you calling me unpatriotic because I refuse to accept that Republican politicians are doing all of the above? You, by accepting, tolerating and even supporting any of this is bizarre and is not patriotic. It’s disgusting, to be honest.

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              Remember when the jingoistic chodes were saying that anyone who is against the war in Iraq hates America?

              Meanwhile, their fellow reactionaries were wearing secessionist merch.

              Nobody hates real Americans like conservatives; their whole platform is “identity politics,” where the only approved identity is “backwards, ignorant reactionary.”