• BassTurd@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    That’s a lot of words to just say that you don’t understand how politics works in the real world.

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      4 months ago

      “Politics is when we capitulate to the most bigoted perspectives if they happen to be held by an important electoral demographic”

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        4 months ago

        When you live in a 2 party system with FPtP voting, this is the unfortunate reality. The person that has the most support has the most power to intact change. Sometimes that means you have to crawl through shit to get there.

        I’ll take any bigot, racist, or whatever vote if that means the better candidate wins in November, because that alternative is the bigot, racist, racist. Better to fluff the controversial voters and hopefully win than lose an election because of a speech. And if she doesn’t win, then it doesn’t matter what she said anyway.

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          When you live in a 2 party system with FPtP voting, this is the unfortunate reality.

          As though you consider any capitulation to fascism unfortunate.

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          Jesus christ.

          If one candidate said they’d kill the jews, but the other said they’d just send them to camps (to appease that popular fascist voter), liberals would end up voting to send the jews to concentration camps.

          This is how liberals end up siding with fascism

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            4 months ago

            That might be true if anything even remotely close to that happened, but that is a completely different situation that what this conversation is about.

            One side says no trans rights, and one side didn’t bring it up in their speech, event though a couple of others did, which is far different from being anti trans.

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                4 months ago

                One will actively aid in the genocide, the other may not. There’s two options, one is better than the other. You can piss and moan all you want about it, but that’s reality. Don’t vote out of protest if that gets your rocks off, but it won’t do any good for Palestine.

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      4 months ago

      This eager dismissal of trans rights

      I stopped reading after this because they obviously don’t understand what’s being said.