• Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    Says while paying money to the person they’re telling about for a blue marker

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      You have to be in a position to be heard. You could literally be the most popular account on lemmy, but you’d still be yelling down or laterally at people who already support you.

      To punch up, you have to be on their stage.

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    As long as a single human being is homeless or hungry, billionaires should not exist.

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        Technicaly That is very dependent on the value of currency current or future one

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          I guess it could be said that the sort of wealth disparity that we have shouldn’t exist

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            what if we didnt have money and cooperated (fucking impossible though because of greed)

            what if the return to monke meme wasnt a meme

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                We’re wired to cooperate. Not compete. That compete part is a relatively recent thing. Last couple thousand years. And not everywhere.

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                  Humans are wired to cooperate mainly if it helps them compete. Basically they cooperate more than any other animal. But cooperation is a means to the end of out competing other groups. That said, there doesn’t seem to be any hard science either way, so this is just my opinion, and your opinion holds equal value.

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              what if we didnt have money

              It’d immediately be re-invented.

              Money is a unit of measure, a necessary go-between because barter just doesn’t work on any but the smallest scales. If I need a root canal and I don’t possess any goods or access to any services the dentist wants/needs, what am I supposed to do?

              How incredibly naive.

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    So we’re going to support a democratic system to tax people and service the underprivileged, right?

    We’re going to do that, right?

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      Exactly. I would like cybernetic arms and legs and eyes that let me scan everything. But instead we get the most boring dystopia.

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    The real question is how do you define best system. I bet those billionaires think this is in fact a pretty good system. Though they are probably never satisfied, so they wouldn’t say best until they could snap thier fingers and a million people would start working to make whatever idea popped into thier head happen.

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        Pretty much. Though from things I have read they are more likely to be competition addicts. Gambling would be one way to compete with others. But yeah, honestly, I wouldn’t want to be them. I consider most of them mentally ill.

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          They aren’t even happy. By most accounts they lead pretty miserable lives, apart from the exorbitant wealth. But it’s gotta grind some gears when you automatically assume everyone is only friendly to you because of your money.

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    No, see, I made all my money by inheriting it, and because I’m rich and wealthy that means that god must love me, and therefore I must be a good person inherently. People are poor because god doesn’t love them, therefore they must be bad people. Duh. /s

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      [Moe throwing Barney out meme with label “divine right of kings” on first panel and “oligarchy” on second panel]

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    The plan is going well. Now all we gotta do is convince all those sonobabiches to get on a Tesla rocket to Mars. As soon as that shit is outta here, we cut off communication and problem solved.

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    I do somewhat disagree with this. Don’t get me wrong, I’m very much on the eat the rich train. But, while not due to elons personal “brilliance” space x has cut the cost of going to space by a huge amount. And so many amazing things have come out of the space program

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      Sure, if by “Elon’s brilliance” you mean decades of Congress forcing NASA to outsource plus a whole lot of engineers none of whom are also CEO

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      Why can’t we do both? How many billionaires are there? How many of them have their own space company? I’m no mathologist but something doesn’t add up.

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      The fact is, one thing has pretty much nothing to do with the other. The wealth gap between the wealthiest individuals on Earth and the rest of us is not the cause of poverty; in fact, as you go back in time long term, the wealth gap shrinks, while overall poverty goes up.

      And what you mention about Space X is one example of the ‘rising ride lifts all ships’ phenomena that makes things better for all of us overall long term.

      The fact that fulfilling three extremely-doable conditions: graduating high school, not getting married before the age of 21, and not having children before getting married, make your chances of being impoverished as an adult next to nothing, makes it even more obvious that billionaires are not the cause of poverty.

      Not to mention the fact that the vast majority of increases in net worth of billionaires is created wealth (as in, if it didn’t happen, that wealth wouldn’t belong to someone else, it just wouldn’t exist at all).

      The real issue is the eradication of poverty. It’s impossible to prevent someone from being at the top, and that top being exponentially higher than the average, in a society where wealth is so ‘create-able’ (and the fact that it is is a good thing, imo!), that position is always going to exist. But as we’ve seen over the past 50-100 years, it is very possible for that wealth gap to not only exist, and grow, and have the percentage of human beings who are impoverished shrinking, at the same time.

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    Nine out of ten people with enough money and power to steer the system to massively favour them think that things are perfectly fine as they are. Now carry on, peon.

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    It’s Neo, also I kinda agree. Though how to fix it is the tricky part.

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      It’s neon.

      Some old book has a monologue where a character says “I am neon” and the context is that they see themselves as beautiful and transient.

      The subtext is that the neon gas in a neon light is just a medium power is passed through to produce some useful outcome through its interaction with the coating in the lamp (light). The neon itself is thrown away when it outlived its usefulness and no one who receives the light of it cares where it went or what happened to it or why.

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    Be the change you want to see! Load up on cold cathode tubes and shove them in your PC or wherever else you can think of!