With membership at new lows and no electoral wins to their name, it’s time for the Greens to ditch the malignant narcissist who’s presided over its decline.

“With membership at new lows and no electoral wins to their name, it’s time for the Greens to ditch the malignant narcissist who’s presided over its decline.”

  • ZMoney@lemmy.world
    64·
    3 months ago

    The other thing I don’t understand is all the anger and vitriol from you guys. Everyone who lives in the US and contributes tax dollars to the federal government supports genocide. The US has been supporting Israel unconditionally for decades. Do you really think Kamala Harris is sincere about stopping this, given how Biden’s administration has handled the situation? Or any other Democrat or Republican since Carter?

    • drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world
      83·
      3 months ago

      They do more then what Trump does. Regardless by letting Tump win you are saying you are okay with the genocides going on in Ukraine. At least more might survive under Harris. Under Trump they will die too. And you will be every bit as guilty as anyone who voted for trump because you could not get over your ego and do the littlest fucking thing for your beliefs.

      Does anyone in the green party even have experience on the federal level?

      • ZMoney@lemmy.world
        36·
        3 months ago

        Again, not understanding where the anger is coming from. I’m not even supporting a specific candidate. I’m pointing out that 3d parties that take a stand against US imperialism will always have support, because neither major party can be trusted in this regard. And again, for some people, this is a line they won’t cross. I’ll stop now because clearly this is unproductive.

          • Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.world
            04·
            3 months ago

            Every vote for Harris is stealing a vote from third-party candidates who represent real change. By sidelining those voices, you’re indirectly helping Trump win!

            • irreticent@lemmy.world
              0·
              3 months ago

              Every vote for Harris is stealing a vote from third-party candidates who represent real change. By sidelining those voices, you’re indirectly helping Trump win!

              How does voting for the Democratic candidate helping Trump win? That makes no sense.

              • Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.world
                04·
                3 months ago

                Because that’s how election math works; a vote for Harris is taking a vote away from a third-party candidate and is giving it to Trump. So people who vote for Harris are really trying to help Trump win.

                That’s the Lemmy logic that gets thrown at me all day every day, so I’m a believer now. You did it Lemmy!

                  • pooperNickel@lemm.ee
                    1·
                    3 months ago

                    Yeah, they’ve never done anything in good faith. They’re allergic to it. Their main goal in life is to be an infuriating contrarian that everyone despises.

                • andrewta@lemmy.world
                  0·
                  3 months ago

                  That math would only work if Harris was lower in the polls. If she had less of a chance to win.

                  She is tied for first place. So your math is backwards. A vote for a third party is taking votes from Harris.

            • geekwithsoul@lemm.eeOPEnglish
              0·
              3 months ago

              Awfully funny for you to be almost ten comments deep in a thread on a post from someone you blocked and that was posted days ago. You following me around with one of your alts just to post your new spam about Dems stealing votes from Stein?

              Damn, that’s just pathetic.

        • Socialist Mormon Satanist@lemmy.world
          04·
          3 months ago

          Amen, brother! I’m socialist and voting third party, and Lemmy practically hates me and insults me every day.

          Good so see someone else who is questioning the Duopoly. Stay strong, brother!

    • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
      42·
      3 months ago

      The US has been supporting Israel unconditionally for decades.

      Yes because support for Israel is a complicated issue. All of the middle east is a complicated issue. We were spurned on by guilt for allowing the Holocaust to happen and then groups like AIPAC have spent millions(probably billions at this point) to make lack of support for Israel be considered antisemitism. And both democrats and republicans are supported by not only large numbers of Jewish Americans who believe that whole heartedly but a huge number of non-Jewish people who’ve been convinced of it as well. So no candidate who opposes Israel directly can get elected, literally ever. Because literally millions of Americans will vote against them just for uttering even the slightest waiver of support for Israel. Meanwhile Arabs in the middle east have made themselves well hated by most Americans through acts of terror against us for the last 60 years. So a large plurality of otherwise liberal Americans don’t really care that Israel is wiping out Palestinians. Especially after Hamas gave Israel such a great excuse by attacking a bunch of innocent people at a rock concert and taking all those hostages.

      So yes. The Democrats are using kid gloves to try to put a stop to what Israel is doing in Gaza. Because if they didn’t, they would lose millions of votes of support. And since republicans don’t give a shit about genocide, they are more than happy to pay lip service to AIPAC and Israeli interests. Meanwhile Trump and his allies are drawing up their plans to literally end our own democracy should he get elected.

      But hey, you’re voting you conscience and choosing to toss your vote in the garbage by voting for the one candidate that opposes Israel. Cause she’s come out of hiding once again to stamp her name on a ballot and give you that peace of mind.