It also asks me to use the app.
I was trying to look up the company where I was thinking of applying, but it said I needed to sign in to view the review, so I entered some fake information. Once I was signed in I went back to the page thinking I could read the review, but now I need to write a review before I get access to Glassdoor!
Glassdoor officially became dead to me last year, when they made everything “opt out” in terms of privacy. It made the rounds and I know they lost a good chunk of reviewers. With this it makes sense, engagement is probably low and they’re desperate to bring numbers up.
Screw them, they became company focused instead of user focused, there’s zero reason to give them reviews anymore. Companies can pay to remove reviews, they are not as private, there’s no reason.
I deleted my account when I discovered that bullshit. LinkedIn’s new opt-out AI data gobbling has me this close to deleting that account too.
Edit: Fuck it, I just saw Ars’ article with LinkedIn’s response. Bye bye LinkedIn account.
I did the best thing possible very early on in my adult life; created a LinkedIn account, and didn’t post/comment a goddamn thing.
The difference with linked in is that I don’t use linked in personally. I only use it in my role as an employee or as a job searcher or as a member of some community. I don’t have any personal info on there, except for the basics that are already out there.
They also have some fun policies like allowing employers to pay to moderate their reviews. So yeah, they’re the Yelp of employer reviews these days
Deleted my profiles and submitted California delete data request some months ago when they made reviews traceable. No one should use Glassdoor anymore
I remember back in 2017, talking to the director of marketing at the company I was at at the time, and she was telling me about how she spent all day getting bad reviews removed from Glassdoor. I didn’t use it much before that, but I haven’t visited the site once since then.
Years ago I left a shitty call center job and left a scathing review on glassdoor. About a year later I started getting hammered with requests for clarification or to remove the review entirely. I ignored them all, and never bothered to look back. It’s still up, but the company I worked for sold itself to some other shitty overlord that also had terrible employer reviews.
Can you share details of the conversation? It’s not that I don’t believe, but I hear this sort of thing all the time about sites like this and Yelp. Did she talk about what sort of criteria they use to remove reviews? Like, I assume (hope) it isn’t as straightforward as “I dislike this review, remove it.”
It would be helpful to know so that we can try to avoid those things when we do write reviews on sites like Glassdoor and others.
Just make some shit up. You worked at McDonald’s in East Hanover New Jersey in 1976. You made $24 per hour and you approved of the CEO.
What a coincidence, I worked there too. I still remember Jimmy quite fondly. Best CEO I ever worked for. He even attended my birth a decade later.
Really? You mean you weren’t born in 1900 like I was?
If you’re not born on January 1st, 1970, you’re not a true John Doe.
Unless something glitches out and you end up being born on December 31, 1969.
I’m always born January 1. What year? Who knows!
Exactly what I do
Yeah, they jumped the shark with that shit a while ago.
Note that it will also have an effect on the quality of reviews. Glassdoor is only worried about number of accounts at this point. It’s unfortunate, since sharing this kind of information is constitutionally protected, but it isn’t necessarily profitable.
The government needs to make a social media platform for citizens to air grievances in a protected manner. An online civil forum.
And don’t forget that you only get a pass for 12 months. After that, you must submit another review to continue browsing. 😂
Well you’ve certainly gotten a new job by then, right?
This always ends up being the ending of any such sites. All you have to search for is “Glassdoor” and “sued” to see why.
It’s believed that Glassdoor’s business model is to charge companies for removing bad reviews. So how much value can the rating provide is questionable in the first place.
Personally, for big companies, there are always people writing their work experiences on an open platform. For small companies, it’s unlikely to find a relevant review, if any, on Glassdoor anyway. So I never bothered to use it.
Open platforms
Care to share any of those? That would be quite helpful.
I’d wager he means something like the fediverse, reddit, various microblogging sites. There are plenty sharing experiences working for Google, Apple and what not.
Yeah, I mean platforms accessible without so many hoops to jump through.
Your point about the small companies is valid, and it used to be better. When Glassdoor was at its peak, you could find smaller companies more frequently and I would read up on the companies I did business with to get an employee’s perspective on whether they were functioning effectively. If your employees hate your guts or think their job is pointless, that’s also a bit of a red flag for me as a consumer. This Glassdoor research worked well for renovation contractors, larger service providers like electrical or plumbing, commercial real estate management companies. Sometime you could also find info that made it easier to navigate call centers designed to frustrate you into giving up. It looks like someone posted a few alternatives and glass door stopped being useful for company research almost as dramatically as google became ineffective for other research. Someday soon, all we’ll have is the company’s marketing slop and any honest opinion will be buried and hidden into non-existance.
With regard to review manipulation, I knew a company with an abysmal rating, a real w2 farm. The people I knew spanned entry level to the c-suite. Said company would have bootlickers in HR and elsewhere post 5 star reviews to try to move the needle. They also asked people to rate them well after training had completed and everyone still had “new-job glasses” on. Despite their efforts, I think they were still sitting at a measly 2.7 stars, which is still way higher than the 1.5 they deserved. The 0.5 is mostly based on the bottomless supply of decent coffee in the break room :D
I don’t have interactions with many people from this company anymore, but what I have heard is basically “different people; same shit”.
does glassdoor have any value now that blind and levels.fyi exist?
What are they? I’d love it if people actually embraced using a different platform. Glassdoor makes no sense anymore
Never heard of either one of these sites. What are they for?
comparing jobs and salaries.
Thanks, levels looks really useful. This will help me fill some of the gap that was left after glass door enshittified and started data mining everyone’s real names and attaching them to their profile as well as pushing their “fishbowl” thing.
They do for smaller companies. In one of my old employers (around 200 people) Blind wouldn’t recognise my work email as being from an actual company.
Sadly, those are also the sort of companies that’ll scrub bad reviews.
I’m happy to see they’ve started adding labels to their (or, I guess MANGA’s) bizarre “level” system(s). I’ve never been referred to by those terms at any job I’ve had.
Enshittification in full effect.
This isn’t new for Glassdoor though. Not saying it’s not shitty, just that it’s been like this for like nearly a decade.
Yeah. I jumped through these hoops too and it created a company page for my company, with one employee, me, just so I could read someone else’s review on a different company.
Of course, now there’s a company page for my company that I don’t appear to be able to delete.
Are you hiring? I’ve read good reviews
Because they paid to remove the bad ones. Trust me, you don’t want to work there.
True, the employee(s) here need to be across every aspect of the business, including cleaning the toilet and talking to CEOs and CIOs, not to mention do the accounts, chase debtors and write code whilst maintaining a sense of humour and getting enough sleep.
True, the employee(s) here need to be across every aspect of the business, including cleaning the toilet and talking to CEOs and CIOs, not to mention do the accounts, chase debtors and write code whilst maintaining a sense of humour and getting enough sleep.
AKA “Rockstars” working in a “fast paced environment”
Aww … shucks … giggle
Glassdoor is was great for a while. Now it’s trash.
When it was focused on the users it was an amazing platform. I remember after every job I’d go and fill out a review, I’d add salaries, everything. Then they destroyed all of that trust, started nagging me to participate , and I had to use my account to browse things (remember when you could just search for the company without logging in and look them up?)
Like all modern corporations they got greedy and destroyed the platform for short term profits, while completely ignoring the long term
Lemmy needs a Glassfloor sub.
That’s gonna be a nope from me, dawg
To some degree you can get use Glassdoor with the help of the element zapper from ublock origin. What you can circumvent is pretty limited, but you can at least get a bit of information without jumping through all their hoops.
What that said, I would not put a ton of trust in the reviews section. As people have mentioned, companies can get bad reviews removed, but also most happy employees aren’t taking the time to go submit a review. I use it more to see salary ranges for job titles, both generally and at specific companies. Even that is subject to how honest users are about their title and salary, but employees have much less access to that kind of info compared to employers, so I have to take what I can get.
