He. Tried. To. Kill. You.

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    1 year ago

    Fully agree. No one should be prevented from voting or from running for office.

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      1 year ago

      Many laws are based on practical reasons. Forbidding a criminal to run for president is one. Or will you be ok if for example Putin ran for the american presidency letting the people decide?

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        I’d say that choosing a foreign-born person as your example is inaccurate because the US Constitution requires the President to be born on US soil. But seeing that the last time the Republicans put forward a foreign-born US national as a presidential contender, everyone glossed over the issue, and only ivory-tower types wondered about the Constitutional issue (e.g., who even has standing, as the concept is currently understood, to enforce the provision?) perhaps your hypothetical is right on point.

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        I’m fine with reasonable limits on who can run. I don’t agree with letting politicians freely decide who can run by passing laws.

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          Representatives. They speak for you because your population elected them to represent you, don’t like your politicians and their decisions then look inwards.

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            1 year ago

            We need strong constraints for what laws politicians can pass. As a principle, I don’t think politicians should get to decide who can run against them or who can vote for them.

            If you like your politicians: I would suggest you should look inwards.

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                1 year ago

                Can you expand on what you mean?

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                  Two party system, gerrymandering, first past the post, no preferential voting. These are all systems used to rig your elections that you and your countrymen voted for.

                  You voted and got the representatives that represent the will of the people, and the will of the American people either wants these things or is uneducated as to why they shouldn’t want these things, but again, all are result of the choices of the people of your country.

                  Americans act like their voting is disenfranchised, yeah it is, because you chose to disenfranchise it.

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                    1 year ago

                    I didn’t vote for any of this. No one alive did. The system is rigged and deeply entrenched.

                    Americans act like their voting is disenfranchised, because it is - not much of a choice available to be made.

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        1 year ago

        For us to call ourselves a free nation, you have to allow someone deplorable a full and fair election…it fucking sucks, but that’s a cornerstone of the foundation of democracy and freedom.