'This Maniac Must Be Stopped': Netanyahu Condemned Over Massive Beirut Bombing | Common Dreams
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Israel's dropping of massive bombs on residential buildings in Beirut sparked a fresh wave of global condemnation against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
  • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.caEnglish
    2991·
    3 months ago

    Residential buildings that Hezbollah intentionally set up a headquarters in the basement of.

    Thats already a war crime by Hezbollah.

    • KoboldCoterie@pawb.socialEnglish
      8216·
      3 months ago

      Firstly, being the second one to commit a war crime does not make the act of doing so any less heinous.

      Secondly, do you have any actual evidence you’re basing that on, or is it just Israel’s word you’re taking? Because we know for a fact that Israel bombed civilians, and as far as I’ve seen, it’s just hearsay that they were targeting actual Hezbollah members. On the other hand, we do know for fact that they’ve used this justification falsely before, so I’m disinclined to believe anything they say, frankly.

      • czech@lemm.ee
        5312·
        3 months ago

        You want evidence?? Are you some kind of antisemite?? /s

      • gnutrinoEnglish
        197·
        3 months ago

        Secondly, do you have any actual evidence you’re basing that on, or is it just Israel’s word you’re taking?

        I mean, high ranking Hezbollah members do keep dying in these strikes, possibly including Nasrallah in this latest one. Sure Israel are still dicks for accepting the levels of civilian casualties that come along with it but the strikes do seem to be hitting actual targets.

        • Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
          156·
          3 months ago

          The targets (so far):

          Israel killed more than 700 people, including 50 children and 94 women, in air strikes it conducted across Lebanon since September 23.

          At least 1,835 Lebanese people were wounded in the attacks, the country’s Ministry of Public Health said.

          In addition to the entire genocide still going on in Gaza and ramping up in the West Bank

      • ContrarianTrail@lemm.eeEnglish
        724·
        3 months ago

        Being detered by human shields means that more human shields are used. It’s the same logic as refusing to pay ransom for kidnappers. The opposite would just encourage more kidnappings.

      • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.caEnglish
        1962·
        3 months ago

        It’s literally terrorist 101 to use human shields. This tactic has been used by every insurgency in the last hundred years.

        It’s why it was added as a war crime.

        As for the second one to commit a war crime. If you follow the rules, but your enemy doesn’t, you will lose. This is the international equivalent of the bunch buggy no punch back bullshit that let’s people hit you with no retaliation.

        • Doorbook@lemmy.world
          508·
          3 months ago

          Repeating the same lies “human shields” and “terrorist” doesn’t make it true.

          • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.caEnglish
            69·
            3 months ago

            The leader of Hezbollah was confirmed dead in the attack, so clearly they were using human shields… They have been attacking Israel from a foreign country, and are not part of that countries military, which makes them terrorists.

            You don’t like the truth, but lying about it doesnt change the facts of the matter.

            • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
              44·
              3 months ago

              It makes them a paramilitary organization. They’re fulfilling their duty under international law to stop genocide.

              • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.caEnglish
                52·
                3 months ago

                They’re committing war crimes constantly. Attacking civilians and using human shields by building their bases in residential buildings.

                They aren’t fulfilling any sort of duty.

        • bobalot@lemmy.world
          173·
          3 months ago

          The IDF uses Palestinians as human shields.

          There are literal videos of this.

        • Maggoty@lemmy.world
          92·
          3 months ago

          So Isrealis are terrorists? We have actual video of them using human shields.

          • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.caEnglish
            27·
            3 months ago

            Yes? I’ve never claimed they aren’t bad. The US does it too, along with pretty much every country who goes to war because international law and the rules of war are bullshit.

            There are no rules in war other than “win”

            • Maggoty@lemmy.world
              91·
              3 months ago

              This should be fun. Where uh… Where’s the US policy on using human shields?

              The “everybody does it” argument is complete bullshit, but I’d love to see your evidence that the US routinely and as a matter of standard procedure uses human shields.

        • WoahWoah@lemmy.world
          61·
          3 months ago

          Well, it’s asymmetrical warfare. It works like that. You want everyone to line up in straight lines across a football field and take turns firing?

          I purpose we have all the world’s nations choose one competitive video game, and then everyone develops their gaming team, then all potential military disputes are settled by a best of five match of the chosen game.

          No wallhax.

          • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.caEnglish
            29·
            3 months ago

            Yes it does work like that, and bombing them anyways is the counter.

            Would be nice if we had an easier way to solve problems, but it’s not realistic.

    • ContrarianTrail@lemm.eeEnglish
      714·
      3 months ago

      That’s what so many are unwilling to aknowledge. Civilian deaths are only issue for the western nations. Not to these extremists. Being martyred lands them into heaven. Not only is this a non-issue for them but it’s actually a good thing. They get to heaven and western media will slam Israel for it. Win-win.

        • ContrarianTrail@lemm.eeEnglish
          15·
          3 months ago

          Not willing to, but having to because there’s a terrorist HQ / ammunation storage in the basement or a missile launcher on the school / mosque / hospital yard that they themselves didn’t agree to.

          • SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world
            51·
            3 months ago

            Man you go from “that apartment and all people inside were terrorists” to “oh the civilians actually also hate these terrorists” real quick. The line between civilian or terrorist is whatever you want.

            • ContrarianTrail@lemm.eeEnglish
              13·
              3 months ago

              Residential buildings that Hezbollah intentionally set up a headquarters in the basement of.

              At no point has anyone claimed it’s only been terrorists in those buildings.

              • SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world
                41·
                3 months ago

                Just cool with targeting civilians then. Damn. Normally y’all genocidal freaks like to do a little double talk to avoid saying it.

                • ContrarianTrail@lemm.eeEnglish
                  24·
                  3 months ago

                  Attacking me personally (ad hominem) for a view I don’t even hold isn’t an argument against what I’m actually saying. I don’t know what you imagine you’re achieving with this inflammatory style of commenting and strawmanning your opponent’s arguments.

                  • SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world
                    31·
                    3 months ago

                    Because I do not take your arguments in good faith because I do not discuss the justifications of genocide. Your argument is evil and I mean it in the purest sense I can muster. I consider you an evil person for actively holding and defending evil ideas of genocide. I do not respect evil people. There is discussion to be had on the topic but not with people like you.

    • frostmore@lemmy.world
      1331·
      3 months ago

      your comment will be downvoted coz lemmy is full of left wingers who prefers to instill their lame ass rhetorics than see the fact that it was hamas and their asswipe cronies that handed israel the reason on a silver platter.

      lets not forget,these hamas terrorist supporters had no qualms using civilians as shields,israel just decided to even the playong field.