The Green Party leader has hired a GOP consulting firm and worked with Trump-affiliated lawyers.

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      I’ve seen other people try and explain how this all works to you so I’m not going to exercise the fully it takes to attempt it again.

      You’re wrong. Period. Case closed and end of story.

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        Oh yes, I forgot Democrats are now the party of Dick Cheney and adopted MAGA into their new slogan. Make America Genocidal Again.

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            What do you want to see. Kamala praising Dick Cheney and saying she is so grateful for his endorsement? Her cult followers cheering for Cheney? Democrats and Biden-led government sending more money to fund genocide being carried out by Netanyahu?

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              None of that says anything about democrats being the “party of Dick Cheney”

              It’s just playing the game. You don’t shut on someone endorsing you. Not when the threat of losing our democracy is so prevalent.

              But you don’t care about any of this, do you? It doesn’t serve your purpose to see the nuance in a situation, does it?

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                Um, when it is a war criminal who lied to get America into a war that killed over 100k people, including thousands of Americans, you absolutely do denounce their support and say you don’t want it. But, as you’ve shown the corporate Democrats are so proud of the Dick Cheney endorsement.

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              Her cult followers

              And here you just admitted that was bullshit and it wasn’t the same. Wild how you’re saying it again here!

              Edit: I’m just going to go ahead and…

              There we go, just for posterity.

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                  Like two replies later they tried to tell me “blue maga is a nickname” lol

                  Yeah, to create a false equivalency. We already knew that.

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                I admitted that Democrats are overall more sane than Republicans. As a Democrat, I have no problem saying that. What I loath though is the Democrat attack dogs that can’t handle anything negative or a third party candidate. They go spread propaganda and make up things without ang evidence.

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                  As a Democrat

                  I’m really going to struggle believing you with this considering your other comments, especially the “Hebrew School” bullshit.

                  Democrat attack dogs

                  LOL

                  can’t handle anything negative

                  There are plenty of negatives with the democrats. Literally none of them makes a Trump presidency an option worth seeing.

                  a third party candidate.

                  I’m going to correct you on this again. There are zero third party candidates which have any chance in this federal election. NONE*.

                  They are spoiler candidates. Its what RFK was, its what the Green Party has done for three elections now. This is not a debatable point. The only time Jill Stein shows up is when there is a federal election. This is her purpose. This isn’t propaganda, this is her proven track record.

                  You want third party? LOCAL ELECTIONS. Full stop, if there is no local, there is no federal. And there sure as hell isn’t a remote chance of a Presidential win.

                  Do you know how many Green Party members are currently federal officials? None.

                  NONE. Not a single one elected to any federal office.

                  Do you know how many are at the state level? As of today, NONE.

                  Less than 10 have ever been elected to a state position.

                  Talking about third parties for a presidential election is pure unabashed bullshit, intended to spoil the election, and the only people they pull votes from is Democrats.

                  So cut the crap.

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                    I was attacked nonstop in my argument that there is no evidence to legitimately claim that Jill Stein is a Russian agent. This resulted in several attacks saying I work for Russia, that I’m paid to shill, that I work for the Chinese government, etc. In responding to these attacks I referenced Hebrew school because the same people had said I worked for a foreign nation, and Kamala has praised her loyalty to Netanyahu so I might as well make the same argument that they are Israeli propagandist that dislike Jill Stein since she like Bernie does not support the genocide in Palestine, unlike most Democrats.

                    That doesn’t mean I don’t want Kamala to win. You can be a Democrat but still take issue with certain elements or issues in the Democratic party. You don’t have to be pro-censorship or attack anyone who isn’t your preferred candidate with lies. It is everyone’s right to run for President and you just seem so upset that someone else would run. It shouldn’t matter to you at all that Jill Stein is running. Why are you so bothered by it? Are you afraid Kamala just isn’t that likeable? That Kamala being pro-genocide might cause enough people to vote for Jill Stein that Kamala can’t win? If that is the case then be mad at Kamala and get her to change her stance on the issue. Candidates should be scared of losing when they are proud of supporting war criminals.